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Hi Keynote! Welcome! Look forward to hearing from you!

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Hey there! Thanks Hope! It's kangaroos, then! Thanks, that really is a blast from the past.

There's a whole 'nother sub-genre...novelty tunes.

"Purple People Eater"

"Hello Mother, Hello Father"

There's always been a place for those kinds of tunes and I'm glad they're back. Some of the rap things I run across strike me as really funny, too. Not the kill/die/i'm a bad mudda-fudda rap (I always feel like saying "ok, I GOT IT the first 1,000 times you said it. YOU'RE REALLY a BAD DUDE!") , but the sounds, the sing-song melodies. Snoop Dog...that' a whole laugh track right there and it's just the guy's nick.

A la, you mention Celtic. Grand stuff. We have a lot of that around the house too. My wife's Irish on both sides of her family, so we got freckles on our potatoes round here. There's an NPR show done by a Fiona Ritchie you might like if you haven't ever heard of it. It's called "Thistle and Shamrock" and they deal with it, she plays all kinds of that music on her show. She puts out sampler CD's and stuff. We got one a couple years ago, killer stuff. I gotta dig that cd out. There's a tune on it with a lead guitarist playing that's out of this world. It's a really nice blend. Another one's kind of a fireside chant kind of thing, modern sounding. It sounds like, hard to describe, I oughta shoot you the cd. Drop me your email if you'd like a copy, I'll mail it to you.

There's just so much here. Woo! I'm still stuck on Bobby Darin and Ted. I LOVE Bobby Darin. "Dream Lover", "Mack the Knife". That guy was talented, plus he hooked up with Marilyn Monroe if I remember right. Can't beat that.

I'm pondering your question, Ted. Not sure where to go with it. I'll have to give it another day or two. Just checking in.

One thing for sure - it's clear music means a lot to many of us and it's been a constant presence throughout our lives.

Something strange that's started to happen to me is in my dreams. For a couple years, I'd dream at times about being someplace where I'd be playing or trying to, and there'd always be something goofy about it. The guitar wouldn't make any noise or the strings would be like rubber bands, or I'd have no pick. I'd be late. It was always something, and I could never remember the music that would be played when I'd wake up. About a year ago or so, that changed and when I'd have those kinds of dreams, I'd just play with the other people and I'd remember what the music sounded like. Go figure. Now it's more fun to have that dream.

Well, gotta catch some z's. Ck, the thread is growing...growing...

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"Do any of you recall Skiffle music from England Lonie Donegan was the best well known with Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor On The Bedpost Overnight"

Haaa! I sure do, Ted. I was a little tad when that was out. Didn't that have a big washboard sound?

Now I'm thinking of that song "Tie Me Wallabye Down, Boys" or something. It was an Australian artist and had a "wobble board" in it, which I think was just a big piece of thin wood that you wagged back and forth in front of you, and it made a "whaaable" sound...???!

Man, skiffle music. That was the stuff the Beatles were doing, right?

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Thanks, Ted. I'll tell Janet. If you think anyone would enjoy it, it's okay by me. I've just got my cd burner up and running and should have some things to shoot your way soon. Take care. I've got a new 16 track digital deck coming this week, too! Can't wait!

P.S. I listened to "You Are What God Says You Are", from way back when. Your spoken intro to that tune is great.

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Country sure has a place, Ted. Glad you brought it up. I'm not fond of a lot of modern country stuff, although there's stuff I like.

The Everly Brothers were sure out of the country hopper, and Chet Atkins did their guitar work on their early recordings. Chet was certainly a foundational musician, guitarist, and producer in the country realm who also had a major influence on popular music. His playing - forget it. It may be done as good as the years go by, but none will do it better.

Lots of country stuff was rolled out in the early rocks years that I listened to - The Everly's, Bobby Bear, Johnny Cash, Presley, Carl Perkins. Buddy Holly was a unique blend of country and rock. Chuck Berry - totally a country and blues blend which defined a whole slice of rock. That "boom-chuck" country rhythm with an r and b back beat = rock! "Maybelline" could have been straight country, with a twist.

One of the later guitarists with a country background that I really like was the late, great Roy Buchanan, out of Ozark, Arkansas. Roy's work isn't known by a lot of people, although he started with the early 50's rock and later carved out a totally unique blend of country and blues and some strange piece of his heart and soul. Roy started young on pedal steel, and later switched to guitar. Everyone from Eric Clapton, to John Lennon, to the Stones, Jeff Beck, just nearly all the well known guitarists of the 60's and 70's checked him out. Les Paul himself has been quoted singing his praises as possibly the greatest electric guitarist of his time. He was, I believe, one of the most complete, original and personal voices of modern electric guitar. He had trouble finding the right place for his music and had personal problems that always held him back. Sadly, he died committing suicide. His music is worth checking out if you never have.

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Bluzman, we're on the same wavelength, seems! Just downloaded that song, thanks! Niiiiiiiiice. Very nice.

Oaks, it's good to hear B.B. is on it! I haven't seen him live in a while. Need to get some of that. NEEDto!

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60's music...

I was only about 8 or so, but I thought I'd died and gone to Limbo when I first heard "Rumble" by Link Wray and the Raymen. Something about that tune sent chills up my spine. The 50's ended for me getting a serious jones for guitar music. Duane Eddy, James Burton with Ricky Nelson, Lonnie Mack and "Memphis", "Telstar", Chuck Berry before he married his teenage cousin. Chuck Berry right outta the prison gate a year later with "Nadine". That stuff knocked me out.

The 60's started for me with folk music - Peter Paul and Mary's stuff introduced me to a lot of music, and I had a serious crush on Mary. I can still remember that first album cover, her on a stool in this cool black beatnik outfit, blonde hair. Course I was like, 11, so it was a tragic loss for me.

There was lots of great stuff - Pete Seeger, Burl Ives, the Highwayman, the Kingston Trio, Woody Guthrie. That led me personally back to folk blues and bluegrass, Lightnin' Hopkins, Doc Watson, Leadbelly. 12 string guitars! Bottle neck slides! I remember hitting the big main Oakland library going through their music section like a sponge and later Laney Jr. college, sifting through everything I could find. When Bob Dylan hit, I was all over it. He seemed like he was from another world. Young, new, smart, hip, detached but mentally and emotionally engaged with his music.

The folk era really helped to open up American blues. When Dylan went electric, he had Michael Bloomfield with him, playing his white Telecaster. Muddy Waters, Magic Sam, Little Walter, Jimmy Reed, the Kings (B.B., Albert and Freddie), Albert Collins, all these players were out there working their clubs and coming to the front through the college audiences that had supported folk. Me, I was too young to really hear it live, but I could sense the depth of this great American music and it was electric! Loud! I loved it.

When Bloomfield surfaced with the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, I thought they were the hottest thing going. Butterfield and band really helped to move the music ahead while keeping the integrity of the original. Bloomfield had been mostly a rock player before that, but he worked that Telecaster well, and moved to a Gibson Les Paul gold top and really found his voice. One of the all time best blues guitarists of the time.

Charlie Musselwhite and his harmonica blew out of Chicago with his first release "Stand Out!" Harvey Mandel was with him, doing straight blues then on a Gibson 335, fluid melodic stuff. All this stuff had a huge impact on me and my friends. The older guys doing their thing and the young guys coming up. It was great. There was respect and admiration for the older musicians and a lot of those guys were just hitting their mark.

The first time I heard B.B. King live though - for me, it was all over. I snuck in to a concert in San Francisco to see him and the Byrds one weekend, and I cried when I heard him. Loved the Byrds, but man. I'd been playing guitar for about 5 years then and thought I was hot but if he'd asked me that night if I played guitar I'd have said "what's a guitar, Sir? Teach me". It was like me and my friends "were on a mission from God" after that. The Blues. We heard it, we understood it, we wanted it.

Clapton and Jeff Beck were two other favorites of that time I heard a lot of. Clapton with the Bluesbreakers and then Cream, and Beck with the Yardbirds and then his own group with Rod Stewart. Those guys were my favorites from the English players. George Harrison, but never seemed to hear enough of his playing to satisfy me.

Later, I heard Albert and Freddie King and loved them too, (saw B.B. and Albert double billed once, with Frank Zappa, at the old Avalon Ballroom in SF and they duked it out on a tune and it scared the crap out of me all over again hearing them rip, Albert doing high feedback harmonics ala Hendrix, B.B. stepping up like "oh yeah? check THIS out!" and doing old jazz bebop 16th note runs. They were like two scarred fighters, playfully doing an exhibition match for the fans)

For me, hearing and seeing B.B. King was a teenage life changing experience. By then, the Beatles and all the English music had hit and I loved it, but when I heard him live, it was like a wave of humanity washed over me and left me different. I'd been playing in all these rock and folk bands, polka bands, you name it bands, and then suddenly I knew that was what I wanted.

Course there was also the Who...

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[This message was edited by socks on November 30, 2002 at 0:55.]

thanks again ChattyKathy for starting this!

Speaking of the 60's...I rambled on there for a bit on drug use. There's a very non-exotic reason I think "mu-zee-huns" can get started using drugs and it's basically the hours you have to work. If anyone can benefit, here's a few more thoughts on it.

Here's a link on the topic of off shift work hours and how it effects your health; health There are lots of resources on the topic. I worked in a Data Processing shop for about 2 years, "graveyard" shift and this was one of the first workshops they had me in and it hit me, this is the same thing musicians deal with.

Most working musicians start their work day in the evening at 6 or 7 and work till late, 2-3 a.m. or later. That kind of schedule turns your body clock upside down and can lead to all sorts of disorientation - insomnia, short-term memory loss, loss of appetite, reduced visual depth perception, lots of things.

Add to that the physical demands of things like travel, the mental demands of processing huge amounts of visual and aural information accurately and the emotional demands of performance and human interaction and the seemingly cushy job of playing music can be extremely draining.

A lot of musicians get started on the 'Drines -dexedrine, benzedrine and methedrine - as antidotes to fatigue and crazy schedules. Amphetamines are used to achieve high levels of performanace "on demand". Once you've used them, it seems like a reasonable way to keep up. Plus, you feel good. You feel GREAT. For awhile. Truck drivers, programmers, air traffic controllers - lots of off shift, mentally demanding jobs are filled with people using them.

Then, you're done and you feel like crap. So you need something to come down and round off the edges and corners, so you drink, or smoke grass, or do something to get relaxed enough to feel better and get some sleep. You sleep unevenly, wake up in a fog, get it together and do whatever you have to do before you start it all over again. That's the cycle. Once it's started, it can be very hard to break off.

An answer is to deal with the facts of the lifesyle and know that right off the bat, this off-hours thing will start to effect your judgment and perceptions in certain ways. Exercise, diet, staying hydrated by drinking plenty of water, and keeping to a sleep schedule are ways to start. Recognizing it is important.

I can't really preach on "don't do drugs" effectively because people are going to do what they want to. I did, Peer pressure, youth, pleasure seeking and the demands of the work are going to be factors that just have to be dealt with. Every example of drug use in art has one message - "Don't do it". Whatever the problems are, self-medication doesn't work.

Friends and having someone to talk to are a big help too. You need a balance, a way to keep your perspective. Jesus Christ...well, He knows the way through the wilderness.

When I met my wife-to-be, she was like a ray of light. I still don't know even after all these years exactly why she loved me, but she did. I know I loved her from the moment I met her. I wanted to have that love so bad, bad enough to come out of the fog. Her love saved me, it really did. Love will do that. It's one thing I truly know for sure.

Well, Happy Thanksgiving! This thread has taken a turn or two. Hope this isn't too off topic. Back to the regularly scheduled discussion!

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[This message was edited by socks on November 27, 2002 at 22:48.]

Yeah, cable! Glad you're "whole" again CK!

Sunesis, thanks for remembering that guitar, it was a 1968 Les Paul Standard, the 1st reissue by Gibson of the 1956 style Les Paul Standard, mahogany body with a maple top and P-90 pickups with the "soapbar" covers. Those P-90's turned out to be good pickups, great for pushing hard blues and a nice clean sound with the volume rolled off a tad. I finally traded it for a 335 when my back just couldn't handle that weight anymore. You were great, I'm glad we crossed paths when we did. First time I saw you play you were wearing jeans, a white blouse, tan vest and had long wavy hair. A nice look. Can't picture you playing in a long dress. Don't know why we got in to those. I had trouble finding any that would fit right, plus those pumps killed me! Hey, we had the "sausage suits", so I can talk.

I think you had stuff to get out, and it would have been nice to hear more of it. Maybe what we lacked was an even playing field for everyone to grow and develop as musicians. I mean, I know for a fact that some outright scarey stuff would get played and sang "after hours" as you say. Jimmy Carrol played one night with a few others of us and he had this acoustic finger picking thing he was doing that was way ahead of the Celtic boom. I just remember it being sweet and fluid and I was like "yikes!" that's hot!

There's something I keep trying to type here, but can't quite get right. I know this is pretty off topic of what we're talking about, but I just wanted to say it means a great deal to me to know that some of my contributions are remembered well. I love music so much and it's nice to know a note here or there is still floating around. I've always felt it honored the music that God's people heard it.

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Aaaah, Ted, the 60's!

One thing you remind me of is radio programming, in the late 50's and 60's when I was listening to all this great music. We had a few stations out in the SF Bay Area, KFRC, KEWB, KYA, KSOL and KDIA. Those were biggies for pop, rock, r and b, soul and blues.

Something that's changed a lot from "those days" is the pop stations played everything that was coming out. Presley, Dean Martin, The Four Seasons, James Brown, Dion and the Belmonts, Tommy Tucker, Peter, Paul and Mary, "Little" Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, The Shirelles, The Coasters, etc. etc. Later the British Invasion stuff got mixed right in. Shoot, the Beatles were covering Detroit's tunes so could hear them do "Baby, It's You" right after "My Girl" by the Temptations!

You could flick on Casy Kasem's show on KEWB and in one night here all these different styles. That's how I'd get exposed to all this stuff. Then I'd get sent off to bed and stick my transistor radio under my pillow and stick the earphone in my ear and pick up Wolfman Jack out of Chula Vist, CA. playing blues, soul and Tex-Mex rock, or tune in KDIA for some late night blues.

I heard Jimmy Reed when I was 9 years old and just freaked out, ran down and bought up all his 45's at the local record shop. Later on, when the Stones hit, I thought "they're stealin' Reed's stuff!" and they ain't doin' it very well to boot! Same with Bo Diddley. First time I heard his music late one night, I couldn't sleep. I knew I'd heard something I needed to check out.

It was great to get exposed to all the music coming out. Later when FM hit, it was the same way for the "alternative" stuff of the 60's. You'd hear Ravi Shankar doing sitar for a half hour, then some Country Joe, Albert Collins, Sons of Champlin, Muddy Waters, whatever.

Now, the programming is so niche marketed, you have to listen to 5 or 6 stations to get any real variety. I miss that variety, it did a lot for the music and the people who heard it, slowly helped to break down race barriers, lots of good.

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It is, Griz. "Bad" sells more cd's than good is the idea. Nice site by the way, just checked it out!

(It's funny, the older you get the more "good" sells. Look at toothpaste. Once we get a few of those babies yanked, brushing starts to look a whole lot better!)

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Yanagisawa, I'm thrilled, you read that also! It's quite a story. Baker was a guy who should have rocked the world for a whole lot longer. What he did was really something.

You're french horn...right? Or is my short term memory getting shorter? Someone said what instrument you play awhile back, orchestral experience, etc....

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Don't forget about Bird...dead at 35.

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He opened up so much to soloists. It's hard to imagine what he might have done with even another 20 years.

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Some success stories of those who battled and won - Miles, Elvin Jones, Jackie McLean, Red Rodney, Sonny Rollins...

Dizzy stayed clean and lived a grand old life with lots of money - bopped all over his colleagues' graves.

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Dizzy was a great example. As time has gone on, I've really found a lot of stuff there. I wish I'd focused in sooner on his music. And Elvin Jones is the ultimate 800 lb gorilla behind the drums. (Sherman Ferguson ain't a slouch either )

Well, off to the commute. 10 minutes for me! Ha!

Cee Kay, diggin' the cable modem!

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That's awesome! Cable access. You'll be stylin' and smilin' with fast online access. I'm jealous! but happy for ya! I've got the old steam-powered, crank-it-up-joebob-and-git-off-the-phone-we-gon'-dialup! 56k modem to phone line access. Well, 2 phone lines, but I've got my eye on DSL, soon's we get the yungins figgered out.

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CK, you're on the case! You're even scaring up business on other threads! You go Grrl!

Griz hits on drugs, a sizable topic in relation to music in general, and youth. I noticed another thread that mentioned Ozzie Osbourne warned his kids to not use drugs by saying "look at me". Good advice, a picture is worth a 1,000 words. He knows whereof he speaks.

Some people, musicians included, point to drug use as a viable means to inspire and initiate creativity. I think it's arguable how much usable, creative output has been racked up directly due to drug use throughout history.

In all the artists and music I've studied as well as in my own past personal use, I think a case can be argued that drugs are used (marijuana, heroin, amphetamines, hallucenigenics, liquor, etc.) they primarily are used to deal with personal conditions in the musicians such as mental and physical problems they're dealing with. Basic human character weakness and environment certainly enter the picture too and peer pressure.

Just for clarity's sake, I'm not excusing use, rather suggesting that the drugs are often used as an antidote to personal problems, peer pressure, etc. and while under the affects of the drugs, the musician achieves some level of pleasure, relief, or whatever. Creativity isn't one of the benefits however IMO. Better music isn't made as a result and the drugs don't really provide a solution or answer.

Their "creativity" while using is actually hampered. Although the drugs may relieve pain, unlock inhibitions and push their work in a certain direction, the musician then has to fight through that artificial effect to make music. A lot of horrible music has been made in that condition too.

It's a love-hate relationship. The drug makes you feel "good" (or just better) and you ride the rush it provides while writing or performing, but at the same time you sweat and twitch and hold on to get the music out.

Virtually all musicians who accomplish anything - composition, technical expertise, performance achievement - all have developed high levels of ability before and outside of their actual drug use.

In the end, we see one talented musician after another lost to the mental and physical deterioration that long term drug abuse carries.

I read a recent biography of the great chet Baker trumpet), and he's a sad example. When he hit the scene he was young, handsome, talented and had the world by the tail. Years later his face was badly disfigured from years of abuse and he'd lost a lot of his teeth, tragically restricting his playing abilities. Heroin use did nothing for him.

In the "high impact" world of pop music and marketing, drug use is entertained and encouraged,largely because the money is there to provide the support system for the irresponsible users. No one wants their jet pilot high on LSD, or their security team off somewhere hitting up.

It's an immature system, which helps to account for all the short careers out there.

Long post! Not finished, just barely started really. Just some more musings.

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A la Prochaine, "Cecilia", patron saint of ex-Way musicians. We need one.

The Jazz series was a great one, hey? And the Way Orchestra was a beautiful thing. I agree about the music lessons for children too. My daughter played saxaphone for a couple years in elementary school and you know what that sounded like at night. But I loved it. Honk all you want. Nothing's sweeter than hearing kids reach inside themselves like that. .

There were a lot of great people bubbling under and over in Way Prod. I mean, Ted, I worked with you all those years and never knew your experiences with Elvis. You mentioned something about it once if I recall. You're killin' me!

There's a lot more I know you could tell, you need to write a book. I've got the title: "Holdin' On: the Life and Times of Ted Ferrell, An American Original". There. Linda Z can write it! ChattyKathy can put it all together. It's a done deal! Ha! I'm getting in trouble again!

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Yea, A La, wasn't the Jazz series great? I ran my schedule around it, really enjoyed it. What stories and visuals. Wynton Marsalis was a joy to see, tooting out little parts like when he commented on Louie Armstrong. Great stuff.

There's a quote from that series, can't place who now, but it was a description of jazz and rock and roll..."Rock and roll finds a place and stays there. Jazz finds a place, and goes somewhere".

It's pretty accurate and not demeaning to rock, but aptly describes the joys of both-rock clarifies a moment of thought and feeling and digs in and works it rhythmically and harmonically. Jazz takes that moment and stretches it out, embellishes on it, expands it. Good musicians can do both with integrity.

Grizz- that's kind of cool, isn't it? Jazz really draws it all in, and it's one of our country's true native art forms, made by the people, for the people!

Music really can be a great expression of the soul, whether it swings like crazy or lifts the heart like a symphony. I have to wonder sometimes, if the Psalms had been music, wow! Joy, sadness, longing, pain, deliverance. It's all there.

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Wow, there's some great stuff on this thread. It's great to read all these perspectives. I've really enjoyed reading all this through.

Ted's on a roll! Ted knows his chit. Ted, I remember seeing all the boxes of albums you had when we were setting up shop in '74. Ted had (still?) an incredibly diverse listening library, both long and deep in artist's and selection. I had left most of mine at home when we went in the corps so it was great to see and listen to stuff you had.

Speaking of music and it's effect, Kathy - we went tonight over to a club in Oakland, CA. with some friends and heard Kenny Burrell, a jazz guitarist who's been around since the 40's. Sat at tables in the front row, not 5 feet from him and the band. I've listened to him since his "Man at Work" album, but never seen him live. He's an exquisite player in the traditional jazz style, one he helped to form on guitar. It was awesome

For music fans, and jazz fans in general, I'd highly recommend catching Kens Burns's jazz series the next time it runs locally on PBS where you live, if you haven't. It is an incredible documentary on the history of American jazz and hits on a lot of the things Ted's talking about. I have the book too and met him at a preview earlier this year for his latest piece on Mark Twain, another favorite of mine. I asked him a little about how he made the "Jazz" doc, and it was truly a labor of love for him. Very good work.

Anyway, I'll check out for now and see what Ted's got next!

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For kids and music - mine get to listen to whatever they want for the most part and decide what they want to embrace. They're upbringing and values determine the choices they make. They already know that music is powerful. Music is a part of my life and their mothers and I could no more separate it out of my soul than I could what color my skin is. They've been raised that way and we are very open about music of all kinds. They already know when someone sings "KILL the @#kers!", that's nowhere. But they're young. They have energy, determination and they're aggressive in the way all youth is. They like music loud, just like I did and still do! So, we get along very well. One plays bass, the other drums, and I have a guitar amp rig driven by a 400 watt Sunn top. We can rattle the bookshelves when we want to.

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[This message was edited by socks on November 24, 2002 at 1:39.]

Hills, ya skamp! This is disgraceful. I suggest you leave them up for awhile though, just so we have a good example of how low TV will sink.

Truth to tell, these young ladies are a tad skinny for socks. The one on the left is cute, maybe it's the smile, the pose. She's happy! Such a happy woman! And bringing such happiness!

Myself, I like clothes that suggest. I'm very susceptible to suggestion. A little goes a long way, well, we're talking women's clothing lines here, right? Never mind, forget that topic. But I think a look that carries a surprise here and there is highly more suggestive than one that let's it all hang out. One that says "maybe" instead of "fer sure, dude!"

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Thanks, Kit, pass the plates and everyone enjoy a big slice! You're all so swell!

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Ted, Ted, Ted. Good to see you man! Here we be.

I appreciate your words, but I thought that was 10 bucks...?!? Haaa!

You're kind. Don't tell Danny Hofer I've got Wes's licks down, he'll show us both up, in his sleep! I get the feeling Satori's got some things going too.

All I can say is I tried. I wish I'd done better. I liked being the utilty man, got to play and learn some stuff I wouldn't have otherwise. I've had a lot of catching up to do, broke my left middle finger about 6 years ago, and that put a cramp in my style. Had to relearn the whole dammed thing over again practically, couldn't even close my hand all the way. I'm a persistent li'l rascal though.

We never talk, which is my fault, but you know I've always felt you were a force to be reckoned with and one that held Joyful Noise together single handedly, despite all our cryin' and fighting and you never put us down or held us back. You let us take the front line and brought out the best in everyone. We may have been of limited talent, but you worked with what you had!

Saw Skip, Nancy and Dave G a few weeks ago. Some things never change, they're looking good, living large and still full of love.

Love you, man!

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That's great Oakspear! Sounds like a great show. Good to hear B.B. is still doing it. I love him. Seen him many times over the years.

I'd almost call him my "father" in guitar. I love him.

One of my fondest moments is meeting him once, briefly, backstage at a concert in Dayton, Ohio after his set. A very classy guy, and caring about his fans. A woman was having something signed when we walked up and this guy rushed up to him and says "Sign this B.B.!" and shoved a flier at him. B.B. nodded and said "I will, but I'm talking to this good woman here right now, you'll have to wait a minute, sir". " Good woman, indeed. He's always held his dignity.

Best show, the Trojan club, Seattle, Wa. (seems like) with about 200 other people at tables, knocking back rum and cokes. He ripped. He showed up late and hit the stage while his band was playing tunes and picked up his guitar (Gibson stereo 335 through a Lab Series amp) and let loose. It was out of tune. He didn't stop for a second, played right through it and tuned as he went. Song ended, he yelled "One, two, three!..." and counted off right in to the next song. He did that for 3 or 4 songs straight without a breath, sweating like a horse. Finally, he came up for air, and said how sorry he was for being late and for things not being right and then proceeded with the night.... He's a class act all the way.Thanks for letting me reminisce on your thread. Glad he rocked!!!

Yeah, you'll be "ridin' with the king"! Where's the show?

Just got a biography of Steve Ray Vaughn, and am really enjoying the stories of he and his brother Jimmy of the Thunderbirds. He's a great blues player.

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Speaking of names, I picked "socks" about the time I was winding off of workstation installs where I work and starting to work on our intranet. socks is a computer term, and here's the official definition:

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Socks (or "SOCKS") is a protocol that a proxy server (a proxy server is a server that acts as an intermediary between a workstation user and the Internet so that the enterprise can ensure security, administrative control, and caching service.) can use to accept requests from client users in a company's network so that it can forward them across the Internet. Socks uses sockets to represent and keep track of individual connections.

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It just seemed like a funny term, and then I realized it was the Clinton's cat, which seemed interesting. He must've seen a few things from time to time. Socks are warm and fuzzy. Dunno. It must've been a late night coffee jag thing.

Dancin' Calvin-love that little guy! I need that kind of energy!

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Hey Sudo, xp doesn't have one. It's set up on the nt kernal not the dos kernel. I too yearn for the "good old days" although they ain't comin' back this way too soon!

By the way, you can download the xp files for setup disks on floppies from microsoft, if you don't have a backup set. I always keep sets on floppies for any systems I use, as well as the cd's, since the good ol' floppies work no matter what. Get 'em while they're hot, ms is making "as is" noises. They're here if you need them.

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Hmmm...sure! How do we play?

I'll raise you....one....Sigourney Weaver?

Movies...I need to check that list out! Krys, while everyone's disconnecting their laptops I would highly recommend these flicks:

The Abyss...sci-fi fantasy, with a nice love story in the sub-plot. Cool effects, and not a horror kind of thing, which bore me.

The Quick and the Dead, aforementioned, with Sharon Stone, Russell (not Matthew! smak smak!) Crowe, Gene Hackman. A western shoot out movie, in fact, one collection of shoot-outs one after the other. Interesting story, kind of fun if you like westerns.

Pale Rider/The Unforgiven....more westerns, Clint Eastwood stars/directs in both, first as the man who stll doesn't have a name, and then as William Muny, former really-bad-guy, back to try killing again one last time, but this time for "good". Both great flicks to see back to back. Pale Rider cinematography is great, Unforgiven feels like it might have really been in the "old" west.

Ghost Dogs....with Forrest...can't recall his last name. Story of a young man who's a "hit man" for a mafia family, he follows a Samuraii code of conduct. Language is x-rated, but it's a quirky kinda cool flick.

Memento....rent Memento! Great flick. Insurance estimator loses his short term memory after his wife is killed, can't remember more than 5 minutes in a row what just happened. Story is told backwards, starting from the "end", in little clips that revolve around his search for her killer. Ya gotta see it, can't say more, the plot is filled with cool stuff. The ending leaves you going "...uh...uh...whu...????"

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[This message was edited by socks on August 09, 2002 at 16:45.]