Nathan_Jr
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Hi, Twinky. Can you tell me about your Christmas cakes?
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There are literally thousands of these unsupported claims among victor’s writings and sermons. No amount of beleeeving or absorbing will make these claims honest or accurate.
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Uh-oh
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Real simple. Tell you local pastor to say, “Zimbabwe de Janeiro maka seetay.” Then, then, THEN, have him or someone else interpret that babble, literally according to usage, as, “Jesus is Lord.” And call it a day. Done. That’s all she wrote. Now, only now, can your sweet local pastor say that he REALLY said, “Jesus is Lord.” See? Isn’t that wonderful!
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Learn to communicate clearly, effectually. Learn to organize your thoughts and express them. This way, you can avoid any jumbled understanding you might cause. Before I wrote this reply, I said Jesus is Lord in three different tongues, but I only interpreted them into English. (I could have interpreted them into four additional man-made languages.) And, I can assure you, the interpretation was accurate and literal, according to usage: Jesus is Lord. There. I did it. I REALLY said it, RICHLY, even though it's not required.
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This is what is known as a double bind: You can't get spirit until you say Jesus is Lord, but you can't say Jesus is Lord until you have spirit. You can add the word REALLY wherever you want. It won't resolve the dilemma.
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Number 9 is hilarious!! Is this real for LDS? It's not just stupid, it's four crucified stupid.
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Right. Thanks. These modern translations are accurate according to usage. Victor missed the mark again with study. A subscription to the OED is extremely helpful in sorting out the Elizabethan English of the KJV.
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Study, like hit the books? Like study for a geography test? Or study for the final exam? And when he says the Word of God, does he mean YourWalk+Believing+TheBible+ChristInYou? Or does he mean the Bible? Does "the Word of God" itself say one must study it, as for an exam?
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Mogadishu!
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Sounds like a "class" I know.
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I'm really not interested in playing this game. It's an endeavor without fruit. Like sitting through PFLAP over and over again. Like asserting the opinionated claim of four crucified. (I will be starting a new topic soon that will put to rest, finally, the stupid error of four crucified. We will take Bullinger's errors apart line by line.)
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I'm not. There you go with the accusations, again.
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Aghast?
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Not all liars do this, but all hucksters do. This is known as Frankfurtian Bull$hit. The goal is not to conceal the truth (a lie), but to distract, obfuscate and confuse (bull$hit).
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This is why the "not ALL bad" apologetic is ultimately, if unintentionally, misleading and dangerous. Twinky, this is what I was trying to say a few posts up thread. You are more eloquent than I.
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Right. Thanks.
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Oh. Yes, righteousness as defined by victor. Not sure I understand how 1 Tim. 1:15 relates to "spiritual maturity." What is MacArthur's definition of righteousness? What is victor's definition of spiritual maturity?
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The preacher is victor?
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I don't know who this preacher man is, but he might have to fist fight VPW over this beleef. I might be wrong, because I might be confusing righteousness with spiritual maturity. "What is righteousness? Righteousness is the God-given justification whereby a person stands in the presence of God without any consciousness of sin, guilt or shortcomings." No one is a harsher critic of me than I. So, I don't need MORE awareness of my shortcomings. I'll take righteousness.
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I don't remember this phrase, but I believe it. The winced expressions of contempt were embarrassingly obvious whenever they heard about my altruistic activities. Usually, after fellowship, my wife would randomly mention some philanthropic cause with which I was involved - an effort to indict me. I was made to feel guilty, as if I should repent, be reproved and corrected, and instead of giving money to the local shelter for abused women or to the Arts, I should give that money to the fellowship. Literally. Actually. I had been involved in various philanthropic and charitable endeavors since I was a teenager, long before meeting my wife and her corps/twit family. They used it against me - evidence of my being spiritually immature and a mere babe in da werd.
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Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. There is so much wrong in PFLAP that the attempt to justify what might be right yields diminishing returns. Let's say 1% of PFAL is good. The effort required to parse the material and sift it down to that 1% seems, well, misguided at best and ultimately futile. Whatever might be good has already been and continues to be taught by millions of others. It's all bad, and the 1% that is good doesn't change that.
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Thanks, Socrates. This guy is a good teacher. Though he is able to clearly articulate a complex subject, I think I'll still need to watch it a couple more times. It raises more questions than answers - not a bad thing. (Victor HATED questions.)
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A thought experiment: A man is warned of the severe health risks of the herbicide glyphosate. He is warned that it is known to cause non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Advice is given this man on how to safely handle glyphosate - gloves, safety glasses, respirators, etc. The man rejects the warning and advice and chooses to spray his fields all day every day for 36 days. This man died dead of cancer. Now, did the glyphosate cause this man's cancerous death, or did he cause it himself? Who is responsible? @Mike
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Can this biological mechanism free us from good determining causes?
