excathedra

it is so easy to follow a poster around, this should be a nice tradeoff for being able to edit. posters can be reproved (in love) immediately

liberty and justice for all

are you pulling my leg ?

excellent!!

question: where did that little thingy go that says how many members there are

i was enjoying watching your tribe increase

i see, june 9th

(i adore these new profiles)

happy birthday!!!!!

for the info

btw, you have the sweetest little face

i just practiced editing this

what are the current limitations satori ?

with all my heart

why in the world did you get all 3 a vasectomy ?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

yes happy everything to everyone

i can't believe the sheet people make people feel sheety about

i hope heaven is a nice place

i'm praying dot

thank you garth and gingie and wacky

i'm starting a thread in a minute because of this thread

and i too want to say how beautiful i find your rose

edited: well, actually, i'm not starting a thread because of this one, i'm starting a thread because of gingie

[This message was edited by excathedra on June 16, 2002 at 12:42.]

i agree there is no wrong and right timing and place when feelings come out. i know that too well.

i think the way you expressed it, wacky, may have come across like there are so many parents who are sorry they had children so this is good not to have children

to be happy in your own life is wonderful, honest, but i took how you said it differently -- so many bad things about parents and how they feel about their children. i just wanted to speak as a parent and how i feel

wacky and hopeful and anyone else, i have never thought about a person being good or bad based on whether or not they are married or have children

the person's heart is what shines through and -- for me -- ginger's heart is pure gold

love, ex

i found this thread unusual especially on father's day.

when i read it, i thought about the greatest miracle God ever gave me in my life is my child.

i have always always wanted children. i wanted many children, but because of the way things worked out with the way ministry and my age, i have one. but i am so so so grateful i can't even express it. i have tears in my eyes just thinking about how lucky i am.

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one person who did more for me than almost anyone was my great aunt. she was more than a grandmother to me. she never married and had no children. growing up i spent many weeks in the summer with her. she loved me so much my heart still aches. she always always admired my mother and said, "i don't know how your mother does it, she is a saint." i miss my great aunt terribly. i promised her i would take care of her when she got old and i didn't do it, another way thing. too painful.

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if you can help nurture children who have parents that are messed up, what a great gift. there are so many that need role models.

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i do treasure paw and mstar and pam (i'm sorry i have to go back to read who else is mentioned).

from the National Fatherhood Initiative

Spend Time With Your Children

How a father spends his time tells his children what's important to him. If you always seem too busy for your children, they will feel neglected no matter what you say. Treasuring children often means sacrificing other things, but it is essential to spend time with your children. Kids grow up so quickly. Missed opportunities are lost forever.

Earn The Right To Be Heard

All too often the only time a father speaks to his children is when they have done something wrong. That's why so many children cringe when their mother says, "Your father wants to talk with you." Begin talking with your kids when they are very young so that difficult subjects will be easier to handle as they get older. Take time and listen to their ideas and problems.

Discipline With Love

All children need guidance and discipline, not as punishment, but to set reasonable limits. Remind your children of the consequences of their actions and provide meaningful rewards for desirable behavior. Fathers who discipline in a calm and fair manner show love for their children.

Be a Role Model

Fathers are role models to their kids, whether they realize it or not. A girl who spends time with a loving father grows up knowing she deserves to be treated with respect by boys, and what to look for in a husband. Fathers can teach sons what is important in life by demonstrating honesty, humility and responsibility.

Be a Teacher

Too many fathers think teaching is something others do. But a father who teaches his children about right and wrong, and encourages them to do their best, will see his children make good choices. Involved fathers use everyday examples to help their children learn the basic lessons of life.

Eat Together as a Family

Sharing a meal together (breakfast, lunch or dinner) can be an important part of healthy family life. In addition to providing some structure in a busy day, it gives kids the chance to talk about what they are doing and want to do. It is also a good time for fathers to listen and give advice. Most importantly, it is a time for families to be together each day.

Read to Your Children

In a world where television often dominates the lives of children, it is important that fathers make the effort to read to their children. Children learn best by doing and reading, as well as seeing and hearing. Begin reading to your children when they are very young. When they are older, encourage them to read on their own. Instilling your children with a love for reading is one of the best ways to ensure they will have a lifetime of personal and career growth.

Show Affection

Children need the security that comes from knowing they are wanted, accepted and loved by their family. Parents, especially fathers, need to feel both comfortable and willing to hug their children. Showing affection every day is the best way to let your children know that you love them.

Respect Your Children's Mother

One of the best things a father can do for his children is to respect their mother. If you are married, keep your marriage strong and vital. If you're not married, it is still important to respect and support the mother of your children. A father and mother who respect each other, and let their children know it, provide a secure environment for them. When children see their parents respecting each other, they are more likely to feel that they are also accepted and respected.

Realize That A Father's Job Is Never Done

Even after children are grown and ready to leave home, they will still look to their fathers for wisdom and advice. Whether it's continued schooling, a new job or a wedding, fathers continue to play an essential part in the lives of their children as they grow and, perhaps, marry and build their own families.

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Happy Father's Day Dads!

you are true inspiration

i'm praying, thinking of you with so much love and all good things

cafe is so darn lucky to have so much of you lately

but it would be better if you were better

i love you so much

- choo choo

my "time" preference changed from where i set it and now i can't seem to find that choice again

- choo choo