WordWolf

As for vpw...... for all his talk about "the manifestations", he wasn't seen to operate the "power" manifestations, I'd like to point out that we KNOW he faked the other 6 at different times. He PRETENDED to receive "word of knowledge" about things all the time. He didn't say "I'm receiving a word of knowledge right now" - but he pretended he was, and then came out with something from the John Birch Society, or some Christian writer of whom we'd never heard. He claimed to receive word of wisdom....yet, on his deathbed, he told someone that he was desperately trying to remember or figure out where he'd disappointed God and gotten refusals for a miraculous healing at the time. That was the same man with a laundry list of sins- simony, rape, sexual assault, menacing, addictionS to alcohol and tobacco, etc. If the man was at all "tuned in", he would have known when he was PLANNING the sins that he was displeasing God. He didn't even need divine revelation to know it was displeasing to God. Asking afterwards certainly would have gotten him an answer- if he really wanted one. As for discerning of spirits, he was fooled about stage magic charlatan tricks to make things appear- claiming they were supernatural when they were sleight-of-hand and someone CLAIMING they were supernatural. For that matter, he died a slow death over a few years, with cancer attacking his cells. (Decades of abusing his immune system with alcohol during decades of abusing his cells with tobacco caught up to him.) The man who supposedly taught the gifts of healings wore glasses through the 70s and 80s, certainly, had a stroke, had to have an eye surgically removed, then had cancer spread to organs, killing him slowly. How much would you trust dieting advice from a "diet doctor" who was morbidly obese? If vpw really knew about healing as he claimed, he would have survived. (For that matter, how about word of knowledge or word of wisdom that he had to stop alcohol and tobacco because they were killing him?) If one only had wierwille's example to go by, it's easy to conclude there's no miraculous healings. So, all we saw were the utterance manifestations- which he faked also. And did a sloppy job of it, too. The same handful of syllables he spoke in the taped class where the same handful of syllables he spoke whenever he claimed to speak in tongues spontaneously at the microphone. "Lo SHON-ta ma la ka SI-to la SHAWN-ta." The man faked speaking in tongues all the time. If one tries, it's easy to fake interpretation and prophecy. In fact, he admitted he'd faked tongues, earlier in the day that he claimed JE Stiles led him into speaking in tongues. So, I question whether vpw EVER did anything supernatural. I think it was ALL an act, a fake, a charlatan gulling a crowd. I think he sometimes spoke correctly ABOUT supernatural occurrences- when he plagiarized Christian authors who were the real deal. That's why he SOUNDED legit. He was quoting people who WERE legit and claiming the words were his own.

It was actually your first clue that sent me in that direction. The others made it clearer. BTW, I was thinking the other day that it's strange NOBODY ever called "Constable Odo" by his personal name, "Ital." Sisko sometimes called Major Kira Nerise "Nerise" (like calling you "George.") "Odo" was the Constable's family name, such as it was. Odo's pretty formal, but even Major Kira never called him anything but " Odo". Perhaps she felt silly, since he got the name almost by accident. The Bajoran for "unknown sample" is "odoital." So, when the unknown sample turned out to be a being, they kept calling him Odo Ital, as if it was a Bajoran name, and it stuck.

I forget how long ago I learned, and where I learned that one, actually. I've known for more than a decade. Raf may have told me face-to-face when DS9 was airing, for all I remember. Phil Farrand may have mentioned it in one of his books. It was probably one or the other.

Good guess, but no. It's probably sad I know Ustinov mostly from his appearances with the Muppets. (He hosted an episode and did a cameo in "The Great Muppet Caper.")

Ok, next round. Name the actor. D.H. Lawrence Jimmy Porter Roman Strauss Mike Church Hercule Poirot

I don't. However, I wanted to give a few hours in case someone else got it. Also, when Wordpup saw what I wrote, he loved the answer (it was a quote from the RSC's version of "Hamlet"- the "R" there stands for "Reduced", not "Royal".)

"Never been awake. Never seen a day break. Leaning on my pillow in the morning. Lazy day in bed. Music in my head. Crazy music playing in the morning light." "I love a sunny day. Dream of far away. Dreaming on my pillow in the morning. Never been awake. Never seen a day break. Leaning on my pillow in the morning light."

From The Hip King Ralph Alien V For Vendetta Spaceballs Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone/Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

No, but probably closer than Lance Henriksen since I don't know who that is. *checks* Oh. Ok, LH was in "Alien", and Peter was in "King Ralph", but AFAIK, neither was in the other movie.

Starting from the bottom, that might be a tailor who's a spy. Rene Aburjonois (something resembling that) used a gravelly voice playing the Constable. Malcom Mc Dowell (who played Soren in "Star Trek- Generations" has, as a nephew Siddig El Faddil, aka Alexander Siddig. With all that in mind, I think we're talking Elim Garak, Constable Odo Ital, and something that almost happened on "STAR TREK- DEEP SPACE 9."

George was correct! As messed up as that character was, I think he had a point. There's been depictions of Jesus smiling and so on in recent years. Also complected like he's from the Middle East.

"I love a sunny day. Dream of far away. Dreaming on my pillow in the morning. Never been awake. Never seen a day break. Leaning on my pillow in the morning light." (For the curious, I wouldn''t have gotten it from the previous post, but I would have gotten it from this one. Memory is a funny thing, sometimes. No, none of this is any sort of clue.)

"We've all become God's Madmen. All of us." "I have crossed oceans of time to find you." "Our ways are not your ways. And to you there shall be many strange things." I... love you too much to condemn you." "I'm no lunatic man. I'm a sane man fighting for his soul." "Do you believe in destiny? That even the powers of time can be altered for a single purpose? That the luckiest man who walks upon this earth is the one who finds... True love?" "Absinthe is the aphrodisiac of the self. The green fairy who lives in the absinthe wants your soul. But you are safe with me."

Mrs Wolf asked me to post one, and provided the image(s) to make sure I did.....

This is still Human's turn.

From The Hip King Ralph Alien

This is George's turn.

Omelet, the Cheese Danish.

It should be. However, the title is NOT "The Sator Square." :)

Vern has 2 choices- jump ship and leave twi, or stay in twi. So long as he stays in twi, there's no downside to accepting the big chair. If he refused, he'd probably be punished by being "reassigned" so someplace useless. So, he takes the chair and at least PRETENDS he can do something. Until he realizes how much he's wasting his time, he's going to stay in twi. Eventually, I expect he'll be ejected because he's not useful anymore, or ejected sooner because he was actually effective and doing something. Either possibility ends with him being thrown out of twi at a time of their convenience. Everyone before him was DISPOSABLE, and either jumped ship or was kicked out. Vern's actually going to be SURPRISED when it happens to him, because he's different. He can succeed where THOUSANDS before him failed.

And I was being cheeky with the title and artist. Right. Ok, next song. "I love my sunny day. Dream of far away. Dreaming on my pillow in the morning. Never been awake. Never seen a day break".

YES! I thought her character in "The Spirit" or the Cristina from "Vicky Cristina Barcelona" might have been the trick. At least I didn't have to put up The Black Widow. Your turn!

Laura Nelson Molly Pruitt Grace MacLean Kathy Caldwell Rachel "Birdy" Abundas Ashley Parker Rebecca Doppelmeyer Suzanne Sandor Meg Windermere Alex Foreman Nola Rice Sondra Pransky Kay Lake Olivia Wenscombe Annie Braddock Mary Boleyn Silken Floss Cristina

Now, that explains why Donna was not made President. Donna was given all the REAL power, and Vern and John were given the visible offices. That's right out of Rosalie's playbook. Control everything you can from hiding, but make sure someone else is up front to take all the blame. This time, Rosalie was able to design the offices SPECIFICALLY to do exacgtly that. So, Donna has all the power (and controls all the money), and Vern and John have shiny new badges and pretend to run everything, and handle all the decisions that have no effect on the money and power. And if they actually prove effective, then Donna gets to eject them and install someone less effective.

Beguiled? Please don't blame yourself for what happened to your brother. You both were abused by twi and in twi. They abused your parents- who then abused both of you, and they abused both of you directly. Both of you had to learn to survive in the face of what they all did to both of you. Decades of callous people surrounding his every action, with callous parents modeling his behavior, resulted in him becoming a callous person and thinking that's how you're supposed to be- that it's "NORMAL" because that was "normal" in his upbringing. It's sad, but as an adult, he now has chances to be exposed to other people and learn differently, today, tomorrow, whenever. That's up to him now. I'm well aware that many people have become non-Christian or angry at God post-twi. Many have not, as well. I'm not going to tell you that you have to be one or the other. I will say that you can still pray for them and for yourself (or not, if it doesn't suit you.) Either way, you'll need to learn to forgive yourself for surviving the experience. I'm not sure I can tell you how, but thousands of us/people have gone on to happy lives post-twi, and you can be one of us/them. Oh, and you don't have to be a PERFECT Dad, just love your kid and do your best. I've found that making the effort gets better results than supposedly excellent parents who don't seem to want to invest the time and energy in their kid.