WordWolf

Vicomte de Valvert: Monsieur, your nose... your nose is rather large. Cyrano de Bergerac: Rather? Vicomte de Valvert: Oh, well... Cyrano de Bergerac: Is that all? Vicomte de Valvert: Well of course... Cyrano de Bergerac: Oh, no, young sir. You are too simple. Why, you might have said a great many things. Why waste your opportunity? For example, thus: AGGRESSIVE: I, sir, if that nose were mine, I'd have it amputated on the spot. PRACTICAL: How do you drink with such a nose? You must have had a cup made especially. DESCRIPTIVE: 'Tis a rock, a crag, a cape! A cape? Say rather, a peninsula! INQUISITIVE: What is that receptacle? A razor case or a portfolio? KINDLY: Ah, do you love the little birds so much that when they come to see you, you give them this to perch on. CAUTIOUS: Take care! A weight like that might make you top-heavy. ELOQUENT: When it blows, the typhoon howls, and the clouds darken! DRAMATIC: When it bleeds, the Red Sea. SIMPLE: When do they unveil the monument? MILITARY: Beware, a secret weapon. ENTERPRISING: What a sign for some perfumer! RESPECTFUL: Sir, I recognize in you a man of parts. A man of... prominence! Or, LITERARY: Was this the nose that launched a thousand ships? These, my dear sir, are things you might have said, had you some tinge of letters or of wit to color your discourse. But wit? Not so, you never had an atom. And of letters, you need but three to write you down: A, S, S. foot! Vicomte de Valvert: Insolent puppy, dolt, bumpkin, fool! Cyrano de Bergerac: How do you do? And I, Cyrano Savinien Hercule de Bergerac.

The failed CA series was, IIRC, end of the 70s, possibly early 80s. (IIRC, motorcycles were in style in the 70s.) This show has title characterS. This show had 2 antagonists for the title characters. The people who wrote the fan mail KNEW the addressee was unable to read fan mail, but sent it anyway. One lead faked a southern accent and said he was 24 when he was 18. Why could the character not read the mail, and people knew that but mailed him anyway? (Not a cartoon.) "He/she" was not a person. So, one character was an "it". like Mr Ed or KITT. So, late 70s/early 80s. Southern accent. 2 antagonists, title characters. A character who wasn't a person- but was really popular- but NOT a title character (the clues were phrased to avoid that.) Based on all that- and what it eliminates- I'm going to say that all that fan mail was for "THE GENERAL LEE" and the show was "THE DUKES OF HAZZARD." Boss Hogg and Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane were in almost every (or every) episode for something like 10 seasons.

It seems that we occasionally get posters who think they have some sort of inalienable rights to things they don't. Here's some friendly reminders. 1) The GSC is a private messageboard that is open to the public. The Admins and Mods determine the rules, and have final say on all disagreements. 2) You don't have any authority to overturn their decisions. You can make a logical case for something. If they disagree, you can either drop it or refuse. 3) Picking fights with staff results in warnings, deleted posts, deleted threads, and temporary or permanent bans. 4) If you don't like the way ANY board is run, you can just go elsewhere. There's other boards, and there's always the option to make your own. All of that is not unique to the GSC. All of that is pretty much standard and generally common sense. Remember that some speech anywhere will not be allowed, for any of a number of reasons. Some speech anywhere will be unpopular and the other posters will disagree and say so. You don't have any kind of "right" to have people agree with you. If you don't make your case, don't be surprised if you're alone on a position. ======================= "I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort-of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express." - xkcd

Usually, when any one of us can say "I do not really care much at all" about a subject, we post zero posts on the thread. It's rather obvious that Allan's got a reason to post on this thread that he really DOES care about- and it's an odious enough reason that he won't come clean and say what it is. We're getting posts by insinuation, by "innocent questions", cheap shots and other things that are used to distract from a thread's topic or change the subject.

"you been having a bad week/month Raf? you've gotten a bit prickly there Rafael lol..." WordWolf: You lashed out with an insult, and he lashed back. If he'd just swung out like that first, I'd have said something. Allan: " I don't care one bit whether you stopped believing in the Saviour of mankind and now brush off s.i.t. as 'glossolia'.." WordWolf: Actually, your posts indicated otherwise, and you're more dismissive of him now as a result- as if, when he posts facts, they don't count now because you and he disagree on religion and that changes the facts. BTW, "glossolia" isn't something any of us said, so you may have made that term up. Allan: ."what I DO care about is yourself and Rocky ATTACKING a poster (moi) in a very personal way !! please desist or I will ask the mods to step in " WordWolf: He hit me first- after I hit him back! Your insult was first, he insulted back. Other than that, he didn't "attack" you, and neither did Rocky. If you were consistent, you would just respond to Raf's shot as if it was nothing- since you think yours was nothing. Thinking your insult of him was fine but his insult of you wasn't isn't internally consistent, and there's terms for people who have one set of rules for themselves and a different, stricter set of rules for others.

It's been referred to as the "baby bust" generation (post-boomer), as well as Generation X. That was coined by advertisers who were unable, at first, to figure out how to market to them, so they said this generation had no distinguishing mark, thus an anonymous "X". Later advertisers figured it out, after the name was already stuck. It became better known after someone wrote a book with that name. Someone also wrote a book calling them Generation 13, saying it was the 13th generation in this country since something. Both the names "Generation X" and "Gen 13" were used as names for comic book teams, each also from that generation.

Ok, looked it up, that was correct. Next one: "All the people we used to know They're an illusion to me now. Some are mathematicians. Some are carpenter's wives. Don't know how it all got started. I don't know what they do with their lives."

Tom Hanks Joe Versus the Volcano Abe Vigoda

Oh! I may not have thought it was the same "Nicky", but the Zohan to not mess with was ADAM SANDLER. (The other names weren't ringing any kind of bell for me.)

I kinda miss the old filter, where that word was rendered "wimp" and the feces swear-word was rendered "upset." I just remember some speculation as to whether or not lcm was gay (with that being the reason he lashed out at them so much), where someone disagreed because he "liked wimp too much." Time for another wild swing...... was this the remake of "THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL? " This moment has the feel of a global announcement, at any rate.

This was ESPECIALLY useful because Rocky posted a link to a free download of the book, meaning it was instantly available for us to read.

If Allan's question was really as innocent as he claimed, he would have just stopped here, when T-Bpne answered him. Allan's question was- where did 6 million Jews come from if there were less than a million in Nazi Germany? T-Bone quoted Wikipedia- ALL OVER EUROPE. Germany rolled into Austria, Poland, France...... Seriously, it's EASY to study history online, if one actually cares.

We know a loaded question from an "innocent" one.

We have gotten into this MORE THAN 5 times. I only linked 5 previous discussions on the subject. The GSC is about twi and its spinoffs, NOT Holocaust denial. If it WAS, then obviously we'd keep circling the same points a lot more. Since the Holocaust is completely inrelated to twi- except where people strongly pro-vpw all just HAPPEN to also deny the Holocaust as vpw and lcm did- it is senseless to FOREVER circle the SAME IRRELEVANT discussions, with a handful of people hiding from actual evidence and quoting from tinfoil hat conspiracy mongers. There has to be a point where even we acknowledge that even introducing more evidence is useless, because the conspiracy nuts here were never convinced with actual evidence, so they're COMFORTABLE with contradicting the existing evidence. A handful of twi kids met an actual Holocaust survivor as a GUEST SPEAKER at school. They heckled her, called her a liar, and made her cry. It's the same mindset that others bring to the table, and they're more about derailing the discussion than actually serious discussions about the evidence.

They were SURE the studio were going to stop them from using that name. They were getting to call her "HONEY Galore" once the studio vetoed the original name. One episode of "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" had Conan try to interview "the oldest living spy." We got a very elderly actor playing a Bond-type, alongside an elderly femme fatale, and interrupted by a very elderly Bond villain. Her name was "Pu$$y Aplenty." Both the spy and the villain kept calling her by her first name. Conan kept breaking into their dialogues. "I insist we call her 'Miss Aplenty' instead!" I really don't remember much about the skit- the funny part was Conan interrupting to KEEP saying that.

I don't watch a lot of movies. I've said before that I suck at movie threads. Ok, let's see, I know 2 people from the current movie that I haven't seen.... Let's go.... Sharon Stone The Quick and the Dead Gene Hackman (Linking through another movie I've never actually seen.)

Rocky: "Wikipedia cites its sources. Allan, WTF is your motivation on this thread?" WordWolf: "Motivation can easily be determined by content and participation.His initial posts were to claim there HAD TO be something "spiritual" about the millions of Jews and millions of others that the Nazis massacred, imprisoned. etc. etc.His later posts were to support the claims of "the Myth of the Six Million", despite that book already having been discredited and evidence showing it was loaded with error. And despite our already having discussed this book long ago and shown how some of its errors worked and were truly errors." Rocky: "Yeah, I know that, WW. I suppose I should have realized it was a stupid question for me to ask." WordWolf: "Some questions HAVE to be asked out loud. There was no point pretending this wasn't a legit question." Rocky's question was legit. Allan: "...WW did point out you were wrong to accuse me of having an agenda..." No, Allan, you're misunderstanding what was going on and what was said. In the current context, that (that inability) undermines your already-shaky position. ============================================== Out of curiosity, what did you think of Elie Wiesel's book, and how far did you get in it? (That IS the subject of this thread, Elie Wiesel's book. per the opening post.

This has been talked to death more than once. More than once, we've had discussions about large bodies of evidence and so on showing how the Holocaust happened. We've also had a handful of people- always very pro-vpw people, every time- come forward, ignore any posted information from any scholarly source, and insist vpw was right and the Holocaust either didn't happen or was wildly exaggerated. Holocaust. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/15320-holocaust/ Myth of the Six Million: https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/9836-myth-of-the-six-million/ Was vpw a holocaust denier? https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24802-was-vpw-a-holocaust-denier/?tab=comments#comment-596647 vpw's connection to Nazi party? https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/6636-vpw-connection-to-nazi-party/ What gives Holocaust denial such appeal? https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/6799-what-gives-holocaust-denial-such-an-appeal/ I would recommend a new thread be started for this new discussion. However, this is NOT a "new" discussion The SAME tired old horse-manure is being peddled AGAIN, and was thoroughly disproved and discredited already. There's no point in another discussion. There's a point in reviewing pages and pages of when this happened before. I see no point in retyping the same information all over again into a new thread.

Some questions HAVE to be asked out loud. There was no point pretending this wasn't a legit question.

Some questions HAVE to be asked out loud. There was no point pretending this wasn't a legit question.

You're welcome. I just want to play fair and for everyone to have fun. Now, if I could remember even ONE other movie DH was in, then I'd have something....

"HEY! You've got to hide your love away." I'm pretty sure this is a Beatles song. I once saw a video of this song, and the visuals were clips from the Beatles movie "Help!"

Motivation can easily be determined by content and participation. His initial posts were to claim there HAD TO be something "spiritual" about the millions of Jews and millions of others that the Nazis massacred, imprisoned. etc. etc. His later posts were to support the claims of "the Myth of the Six Million", despite that book already having been discredited and evidence showing it was loaded with error. And despite our already having discussed this book long ago and shown how some of its errors worked and were truly errors.

So, my next round would go like this.... Beetlejuice Glenn Shadix Demolition Man