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On the contrary, he was manifesting it right then and there. I understand. That's why you got fooled. Some of us didn't. He was at the beginning of his control-freak peak. Those who left never got to see it firsthand, praise God. And Mussolini made the trains run on time. But he was still a freak who needed to be brought down, as was LCM. Your start date is off by a few years. But sadly, you still don't.

You know, when it comes to plagiarism, I hear you guys saying that we should not be accepting the world's standard and we should allow God's Word to prevail blah blah blah. But suddenly the world's standard is wholly appropriate when a control freak demands your loyalty. Which is it? Lots of people recognized that LCM was not truly asking people to stand with him, but to stand UNDER him. Those people were fired. And those who were not in a position to BE fired left gladly. And history proved us right. :)

I'm not sure about that last line. It absolutely does not apply to me. But that's neither here nor there.I actually agree with what you said here, WTH. I think CES did a bangup job with that book, and they wouldn't have had it not been for JCING. Are there flaws with CES's book? I think so. But there are good points as well. One of my beefs with the CES book is that JCING is not in the bibliography (I'm going to check again to make sure I am not mistaken). JCING belongs in the bibliography of that book. This, of course, I disagree with entirely. It's self-serving and stupid. Why are people who are trying to grow in their knowledge of scripture "bickering," while idolatrous sycophants who have no desire to grow beyond the limited perspective of a lecherous plagiarist held to no account whatsoever? Please. If you ever decide to grow beyond PFAL, there are plenty of genuine Christians who'd love to help you see a more excellent way.

Even if Wierwille said the problem "had been solved," I wouldn't believe him, nor would I accept the ludicrous thesis that his written works comprise said solution, seeing as those written works contradict each other and contain errors which prove (according to the very standards of those written works) that they are not what Smikeol claims them to be. I do not start with the premise that PFAL is not "The Word of God." On the contrary: to prove or disprover a thesis, you must start with the presumption that said thesis is true, then test it. As I test PFAL, as ANY HONEST PERSON tests PFAL, they can ask themselves simple questions to determine its veracity. If PFAL is true, then it will not contain any errors nor will it contradict itself. PFAL fails on both counts, proving the thesis false. On its merits, not on (verified and documented) accusations of plagiarism or (verified and documented) evidence of the lecherousness, vindictiveness and dishonesty of its "author," who is VPW and not God. To whatever extent PFAL has something positive to offer, praise God. But everything positive that is offered in PFAL is available elsewhere to anyone who chooses to seek it.

If I were to lose a friend due to my lack of devotion to VPW, I would rejoice in the knowledge that a false and phony friend was exposed. As it stands, I did not lose any friends for that reason, and I know that I chose my friends wisely. :)

Good one! Jean Harlowe was in Public Enemy with James Cagney Cagney was in Ragtime with Brad Dourif Brad Dourif was in Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers with Cate Blanchett Cate Blanchett was in The Aviator with Gwen Stefani Let's try this one: Fred Astaire/Hector Elizondo Par is 5.

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Be quiet! I want to hear the answer! :)

Ah. The thread does have a subtitle, though.

Actually very easy. Paul Sorvino was in Nixon with David Paymer David Paymer was in Quiz Show with Mira Sorvino. Ok, so... George Lucas/Steven Spielberg Dang: I looked it up and they both had cameos in Indy II. I'll come up with another one. Steven Spielberg/Martin Scorcese

George, That's what this thread is about. The storm actually formed on Friday.

In this game, it's fairly well established that if there's a lull, anyone else can jump in.

So THAT's what the song means! Happy New Year everyone! Psst. Sudo. Happy 2006!

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Please...don't...see...Traxx... :) Do see Shattered Glass, though. Not that interesting unless you realize it's a true story.

I just went through this whole thread again. This has been fun!

It has been an issue before. Up until a few years ago, they didn't name post-season hurricanes (at least, that's my recollection. Perhaps Lifted Up knows better).

Much better. Incidentally, Davis was in Return of the Jedi with Carrie Fisher, who was ALSO in Under the Rainbow. Your move.

Death is not the result of no longer believing. Death is the result of no longer breathing. (just saw WordWolf's post. Great minds...)

This is now making the rounds at work.

So help me God... SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 1100 AM EST FRI DEC 30 2005 SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE EASTERN ATLANTIC HAS DEVELOPED INTO A TROPICAL STORM ABOUT 1000 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF THE AZORES. A SPECIAL ADVISORY ON TROPICAL STORM ZETA IS IN PREPARATION AND WILL BE ISSUED IN AN HOUR OR SO.

Except that Billy Barty was not in the Wizard of Oz Hint: Billy Barty was in separate movies with each actor. The Wizard of Oz was not one of them. There's another link that would work in two as well. Initials are CF.

What it shows is that the people running the corporation were not being led by the spirit when they made decisions for the corporation. They were acting according to the flesh and displayed the works thereof.

Oldies, What is the ministry? It's an organization with policies and principles. It's not just the "people." If it were up to the "people," PFAL would have been free. TWI's policy and principles and actions as a corporate unit were devoid of love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness... I can't say that about individuals within TWI. I didn't know them all. I can say that LCM exhibited a profound lack of many of those qualities. But I can't say that about everyone. But regarding the ministry as a corporate unit, it was lacking in every single one of the fruit of the spirit.

Can't speak for every leader, obviously. But the ministry itself? Love? Their love is a counterfeit: they call it agape, but it's got more filet-o than a McDonald's franchise. Joy? They chased joy out in favor of an artificial happiness. Peace? Not really. Longsuffering? That means patience, hardly a TWI attribute. Kindness? Again, hardly an attribute of the organization. Some people, yes, but not the organization. Goodness? Umm, no. Gentleness? Give me a break. Self-control? Others-control, maybe, but not self-control. So, yeah, the ministry either does not have or does not manifest the fruit of the spirit.