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Supergirl Helen Slater The Legend of Billie Jean
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Hubba hubba? Potato sack lady?
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I disagree. I think you [not you, but the community of faith in general] posited a God who exists and who demonstrates his existence only to turn around and redefine existence so as to make it undetectable to account for the fact that he fails any test for existence. If you ever get a chance, look up Carl Sagan's dragon in the garage and you'll see my point. The Bible does not describe a God who will do His best to avoid detection as a test of faith. It describes a God who rewards those who diligently seek him with tangible evidence of his power. **** For anyone not following threads, this thread is intended as the unbeliever's answer to a similarly titled thread in doctrinal. Because doctrinal is supposed to explore the Biblical answer to the questions raised therein, I chose not to respond there. But why do we not see the same miracles today that we saw in the first century or in the 1970s when people told incredible [and coincidentally unverifiable] stories of miraculous healings? You guys are twisting yourselves into pretzels seeking an answer to the point of denying any such "scarcity" exists. My unbelieving ass is sitting here giggling vecause the answer is so painfully obvious: The scarcity of miracles is directly relate to the non-existence of a power behind them.
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Why do we no longer see the miracles that were prevalent before we could scrutinize them and subject them to inquiry? Why is it easier to make excuses for why an omnipotent God is powerless to bring good to pass than it is to recognize he is a fictional character who could not affect our lives if he had an existence or will that wanted to?
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Many "of the" hookers and pimps is the giveaway. A comedy with throwaway hookers and pimps has to be Night Court. I'm guessing the Emmy winner has to be John Laroquette.
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I'm not done, but a few observations: 1. Paranoid conspiracy theory level silliness. "They were part of a secret society," then goes on to tell us all about it. Some secret. 2. Not exactly neutral. It's not that these folks were actually evil. They just were deists and not Christian. But that's not enough. Gotta be eeeeeevil. 3. Grateful to see the "founders weren't pushing Christianity" argument coming from CHRISTIANS for a change. However, it should be clear that Christians were involved in the founding and had some significant influence. Secularism was the compromise, and Oldies is right. How wonderful to have a constitution that allows Christians to be Christian as they wanna be. It also allows me not to be. Huzzah. Further exploration of this veers into politics. Let's not.
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In case it got lost in the shuffle: The music producer was Berry Gordy of Motown [and banging Diana Ross] fame. NPH was famous [in part] for his character Barney Stinson who would promise adventures that were "legen--wait for it--dary. legendary." And yes, there was a Spider-man musical. He was not crashing the party.
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On God-Breathed Scriptures
Raf replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
I just checked. Your assessment is not correct. At all. Here's what I wrote: [the formatting got thrown off here and I can't figure out how to fix it. Sorry]. That. was. literally. my. point. I think [if I may] that your question to me presumes that I have an explicit or implicit definition of theopneustos in mind. I don't. At all. I'll repeat my point: It does not matter how you define the term, whether it's God-breathed perfect down to the last preposition or "kind of God inspired," there's no way to rule out PFAL that does not rule out the Bible. On what grounds do you reject PFAL as "kind of God inspired"? Can you see how someone else might apply the same standard to the Bible and find it wanting? Etc. -
Cleaning up the error: Dune, Jeffrey, A Christmas Carol. Same answer. WW is up.
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ah, ok. i'll post links when I get to a computer rather than my phone. But I think you mistook my point for antagonism. You asked about the value of corroborating sources for the Bible's claims, then demonstrated the value by asking me for references. That's the point I was trying to make. For simplicity's sake I would just plug the keywords into wikipedia and see what pops up. Here's Joshua and Ai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(Canaan)#:~:text=The Ai (Hebrew%3A הָעַי%2C,day archeological site Et-Tell.
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you are right
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1. The Jefferson Bible is basically the teachings of Jesus stripped of all supernatural inferences and references. Save ypur money. I'm positive it's available online. 2. Why do I need references but the Bible doesn't? Evidence that I am wrong would change my mind. Why declare before researching that it would not change yours?