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Continued from last post.... The only time you should consider what a man is saying to be God's will is when God directs you to. Then the person teaching you is doing what he needs to do not for your sake but for his. The ego of people to think that I can't know Gods will without them to tell me. What an exceeding abundance of insanity is carried by the hearts of men. Is God unable to speak for Himself? If I needed to know God's will and the person whom God is trying to ameliorate by having them tell it to me will not listen then God will have the rocks sing it to me. Continued on next post....

Continued from last post.... God does not care less for you than he does for Jesus Christ. You will never find Him looking to others nor will you discover His will for you personally in what some preacher has to say. All people get when they trust someone else to show them God's will is the only thing someone else is able to give them, death. Continued on next post....

Put yourself in God's shoes. If you were God always with me and I was always asking you what your will is and what I should do. And you stood right in front of me and told me plainly and clearly every time I asked yet, I wondered around all day ignoring what you had to say and just continued unceasingly to ask wouldn't you be just a little irked. That is what I think sin really is. If you lack confidence in God then just make up your mind either He does or does not tell you everything you need to know. He is or is not ever with you guiding you and helping you, which one is it. God is not hiding or whispering you either believe this or you do not. Continued on next post....

What I mean is, do the thing that God says if its go to church then go to church if its go the clinic or dunk yourself 7 times in your bathtub until you are better then do what you asked God to tell you to do. Of course the person who is not completely convinced that God is with him and in him will ask, " How do I know what God is saying for me to do I don't hear anything?" So they try reading the bible or book of Mormon or Koran. They take classes and become monks or way corp thinking that will tell them what to do or that is what God wants them to do. The things people do to themselves in their effort to know God and His will are lamentable. Continued on next post....

God is ever with us at all times there is nothing to be afraid of. We all have physical and emotional needs. We should look to our God to supply them not to men or their institutions such as religions or governments. Don't misunderstand me I don't mean If you are sick you shouldn't go to a hospital. Continued on next post....

ExC WhatZZZZZZZ UUUUp! you fine expressionist of a woman. I've been away and missed your conversations. What I mean by sin being what we do to ourselves is the way we allow our lack of confidence in Gods love and ability to dive us into trusting our own reasoning's more than Him. This is the trouble with logic. God is not logical He is correct people use logic God doesn't use anything. Continued on next post....

--> Continued from last post..... Their damage to themselves is great. Though today they lack no dainty comfort for their journey tomorrow shall see them naked and weeping. I do not believe sin is so much the wrong I do to others or the wrong others do to me. We all rightfully carry the guilt of blood and it's penalty of death. Sin is that which I do to myself in the presence of my God. What I do to others is only a wisp of air in comparison no matter how great my crimes.

--> Continued from last post..... I'm not saying we should have compassion for them. No not compassion but maybe pity. What we call their sin is just the visible symptoms of their own ambition and covetousness. The reason I give them my pity but not my compassion is because they are not the victims of malady they are its volunteers. Mutations in the thoughts of their minds and wants of their souls are the joy of their willful hearts. Continued on next post......

--> What difference does it all make? Sin in my opinion is not what we have been taught to think it is. I believe VPW and LCM or RRR or RJR or any of the idiots frolicking about pretending to be more significant in the sight of God than there fellow man are sincere in there desires and opinions. Such people honestly think more of themselves. Not that I would argue a mans intent defines what is or is not sin. Continued on next post......

--> Rafael1969, I read what you wrote. I disagree with your interpretations even more than some of VPW's.

Why can't the media just let the man die already? They force JFK down the throat of a generation that doesn't give a rats anus about him. He was a second or third rate president who got shot and died. Look at all the people who have gotten shot and died that are doing their jobs better than JFK did his and you couldn't get Petered out Jennings to do a special for them, unless they died trying to ban guns or socialize health care maybe. "Ask not what you country can do for you," what a blithering idiot JFK was. I guess if you look good enough and can read speeches all the tv anchors of the world consider you one of their own.

--> Flay Minion Who was it that said there are limits to how stupid someone can be? whoever it was they obviously never met you. early2it : It's worth reminding you (and others as well) that personal attacks - particularly posts which are nothing but personal attacks - are not welcome here. Like it says in the rules: "Disagree all you want, but respect the fact that someone else may feel as strongly about their ideas as you do about your own. Please don't make it personal. A lively discussions of ideas is both more polite and more relevant." (emphasis added} Thank you, Pawtucket [This message was edited by pawtucket on October 25, 2003 at 14:06.]

:o--> Maybe Mr Plate lick should wish to consider getting a real life instead of living off of others. He has about as much athority from "GOD" as the F---- Pope.

wayferlookin It's to bad that you think I am slamming people. I am extremely angry not bitter. My anger is not at the way it is at vile beliefs that produce nothing but bondage for people no matter where or from whom they come. Any person who promotes error, either through passive or active support, I consider not an enemy of mine but of life. Any enemy of life is a friend of death. Are you a friend of death? Will you encourage the heart of an individual to escape for freedom and experience Gods greatest gift of all that of life? Or, will you for fear and comfort authorize the workings of death. It is not possible to serve two masters. This statement is either true or it is false what say you.

I read your post and I have to say you came up with a lot of feel good reasons to justify continuing to give your support to the way. But you did not say it is the right thing to do. Just by showing up you are saying it is O.K. to exploit people for the acquisition of your group's ambitions. You need to wake up and take responsibility for what you are doing. The only things the self-appointed leaders of the way ministry care less about than you are truth and integrity. You continue to empower the way with full knowledge of what it is. Just like the fools who keep the machines running down at the pedofile factory of the catholic church. I enabled the way for a long time and now I am ashamed you should be to.