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  2. Yes, renouncing the "law of believing" is certainly a massive departure from Way theology.
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  4. Raf's clue would imply "The Birds." I haven't seen the movie, so the lines and the characters' names don't ring any bells. George
  5. The teachings are remarkably the same as PFAL, with one difference in the "statement of un-beliefs": 9. We do not believe that “faith” is a force generated by the human mind that automatically brings either good or bad into one’s life.
  6. George, if you can start describing 2 of the main characters, you'll probably figure out which movie this is.
  7. Some might call that "crazy." Others might find another way to describe it.
  8. Lotza things kids, Having been around during that period of Lynn 's exit and having spoken with him twice the year he skated out, John Lynn's "quitting/getting fired" from the Way Ministry was kinda self serving. It benefitted him in several ways: - He crafted his own exit message around his personal involvement and culpability in the things that were "wrong" with the Way Inc. I mention that because when he and I spoke the first time about his leaving, he didn't want to talk at all about issues I brought up to him that I felt he had some accountability for. - He was able to personally attack all of the Trustees and anyone he wished without any chance of their rebuttal or responding. - He created and managed the environment in which he WOULD deal with anything he chose - He was able to start teaching what was to become a long string of half-assed-theories-of-the-week ideas unchallenged, while claiming he was walking in "Doctor's Footsteps" (which he told me over the phone). And when I told him he and I both knew ANY deviation from PFAL would have "The Doctor" shoving his foot up his ass he just chuckled and said "well, we'll all know someday" and continued to blab on. When I last spoke to him in - 1987? - I was still formally attached to the Way Inc. via my then-current Corps assignment but I was very aware that the Way Nash's leadership structure was in rack and ruin and I had no rose-colored expectations that it was going to get better. IMO however, Lynn did no great service to anyone in "revealing" the evils of the Way Trustees that he didn't get a lot in return for. It set the stage for all his future efforts and effectively made him an heir-apparent for all the ex-Wayfers who still needed a nipple to suck on and a warm crotch to lay their head on while being taught "the Bible" again and again and again and again. And again. Other than a phone call in the '90's when he was traveling around with a new book to sell and a coffee can to collect money in when he taught, I have had no contact from him at all. I wouldn't get involved in any of his enterprises, listen to him talk or buy anything he was selling. I'd love to engage in any number of normal real life activities, if the opportunity fell into my lap but other than that I do pray for his health and healing. Over the years I've heard and seen a few things here and there that he's done and - maybe it's just me - but he's turned into a terrible speaker and teacher, IMO. He's not really "funny", which everyone likes to say to get you to listen...."He's just as funny as he ever was".....and I'm not hard pressed to find yet another LOL jokester. I'm sure he's about as good as anyone would be who's been pounding the book for this many years but it's been years since I was dependent on the Teaching Teat of Ex Way Teat-chers. Seriously - there's a lot of sludge out there. As long as they mean well and do their best, I'm fine with it, just don't try to tell me it's next level stuff or particularly meaninful or anything like it. But my Gad-a-mitey, this is ancient history. Why do I persist, and to what ends? I guess it's a way to sort through the detritus and dust and pull out the odd dime or quarter lost in the cushions. God bless 'im but if the intent is to carry on with the message of Christ and salvation to the future generations it's time to give this bullshit a rest and focus on "GOD'S WORD" instead of whether or not one of us old and breaking down former wannabe-s can still punch our old weight. I would say this with no equivocation however and with all the state and stature it deserves - Lynn is the Undisputed King of The Church of JAL. All hail the King of JAL!!
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  10. To weave our dreams upon and listen To each evening when the lights are low To underscore our love affair with tenderness And feeling that we've come to know You'll swear you've heard it before As it slowly rambles on and on No need in bringing 'em back 'Cause they've never really gone George
  11. This website (Prescott E News) is at least partially owned by a person who was kicked out of the Arizona House of Representatives and may lose his law license for cause. The cause? Having failed to disclose charges of sexual abuse of minors (teenage boys) he had faced decades ago in Baltimore. Both the website AND the topic ARE political.
  12. The subject itself IS inherently political.
  13. Was the lead actress, whose daughter is arguably more famous than she is, catcalled on her way into a pet store? Nah, that would be crazy.
  14. You've heard of this movie. And probably the sequels. And almost certainly the remake.
  15. For those with no google-fu skills, you can find The Federalist Papers here: http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1786-1800/the-federalist-papers/ https://www.congress.gov/resources/display/content/The+Federalist+Papers The latter link has it all written out further down the same page.
  16. I always find it interesting when advocates for something are interested in promoting something while simultaneously hiding the subject matter. The same thing came up when people were pushing for the book "King and King" in libraries. (It's a story about a prince who marries another prince.) The summaries that the librarians use to order books all left out that the books was about a prince who marries another prince. It's the main point of the story. However, it was "accidentally" left out in the description. Did someone want libraries to end up with the books with no idea of the subject? Did someone want parents bringing the book home to their kids with no idea of the subject? (I'm confident the answer was "yes" both times.) If people REALLY think that having drag queens read books to children in libraries is a good thing, why not have an open discussion on the subject? If there's genuine benefits to this, why not level with the parents and community about the golden opportunity they are missing? I'm led to think that the people supporting this do NOT think that, and want to do things under-the-table, with nobody knowing that they're going on. Is that best for society? Is that best for the community? If not, is a taxpayer/community-supported and community-serving public library the best venue for this? Another question, and one I'm sure is off-topic to explore on the GSC, is the famous "who benefits?" question. SOMEBODY is going through a lot of trouble to SNEAK this past the public eye, in contradiction to public opinion, and public interest, and public benefit. All of this energy means it's important to SOMEONE. WHO is it important to, and WHY is it important to them? I'm posing those as rhetorical questions because that's as far as I see this discussion going here. I'm hoping that the QUESTIONS will at least be permitted to stay. undeleted, even if the thread gets locked.
  17. A) I'm HIGHLY suspicious that we're not getting all the important information here. As written, it makes no sense. I don't know if Oldies was told all the useful facts here. B) This gets into lots of questions about handgun licenses and ownership- all of which are political and off-topic for the GSC according to the rules. C) The basis of completely different laws in different states is one of the reasons the Articles of Confederation was replaced by the US Constitution and Federalism. Perhaps a reading of "the Federalist Papers" might be of interest here.
  18. Maybe yes, Oldies, but the bar should be very high for getting a licence. Better yet, change the psyche that thinks handguns are a good thing to have. Get rid of the things. And definitely get rid of assault weapons, that have been used in so many multiple shootings. Can't see that happening any time soon.
  19. This could easily devolve into a political discussion. It's probably best to leave this one for another web site.
  20. We really need them... something like a drivers license for handgun owners that is honored in every state. I have a good friend who has a pistol license in New York who made the mistake of bringing his handgun into Massachusetts, which without a license for MA, is a felony. He got caught, and is serving 1 1/2 years hard time inside a MA jail. It's a victimless "crime" that should have never been. What do you think?
  21. No. Incidentally, this actor is over 100 years old. George
  22. What are your thoughts about "Drag Queen Story Hour"? I think the writer here speaks truth and is compassionate to children: https://www.prescottenews.com/index.php/features/columnists/the-buz-blog/item/34063-opinion-it-s-not-diversity-it-s-perversity
  23. We're never going to agree about priestly celibacy or otherwise, Oldies, but I will definitely agree with you about the above. Peace!
  24. Oldies, it's not a variation between RC and Prot interpretations - what I quoted is straight Biblical verses. In English, of course, but I'm afraid I can't show it you in "the original." If one wants to look at traditions and interpretations, then Jewish and rabbinical traditions would be more appropriate. And rabbis are not only expected to be married, but to have lots of children. As were leaders in the early Christian church; re-read Paul's epistles on this topic - expected to be married and have well-raised kids. That's well pre-RC and pre-Prot divisions. In fact, here's the story of Zechariah for you, from Luke 1. It's clear that he and his wife had been trying for years for children and it was only on this occasion that they were successful. In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest of Abijah’s division named Zechariah. His wife was from the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. 6 Both were righteous in God’s sight, living without blame† according to all the commands and requirements of the Lord. 7 But they had no children because Elizabeth could not conceive, and both of them were well along in years. 8 When his division was on duty and he was serving as priest before God, 9 it happened that he was chosen by lot, according to the custom of the priesthood, to enter the sanctuary of the Lord and burn incense. 10 At the hour of incense the whole assembly of the people was praying outside. 11 An angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing to the right of the altar of incense. 12 When Zechariah saw him, he was terrified and overcome with fear. 13 But the angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah, because your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you will name him John.
  25. Ok, next one. This was a successful television show. It ran for several seasons, and was syndicated to different countries. It had a sequel show with new episodes some time later. It was never an animated series nor an animated movie, and should not be mistaken for one. It later resulted in a live-action movie- which should not be mistaken for any other movie, whether animated nor live-action.
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