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Skyrider, your post got me thinking of how much more complex the inner-workings of TWI are. It’s wheels within wheels (not to be confused with Ezekiel’s wheel ) : “If you say that there are wheels within wheels, you mean that there are a number of different influences, reasons, and actions which together make a situation complicated and difficult to understand. ‘Our culture is more complex than he knows. Wheels within wheels.’ ” (from Collins dictionary ) …Exploring how TWI institutionalized social controls has always held my interest – but you got me thinking of another angle – that looks at the heart of the problem – who really runs the show. I like the timeline of the secret and not-so-secret managerial tactics of a cult in your post - wheels within wheels…makes me wonder if it’s even worth it to address any of the issues you mentioned in your very first post to the new president ( here ) – maybe that’s all just slapping a Band-Aid on the deeper problems of a mini puppet government – “a government which is endowed with the outward symbols of authority but in which direction and control are exercised by another power.” ( from Merriam Webster ) I believe Rosie the puppeteer is cut from the same cloth as wierwille - a predator or parasite. “…the social predator or parasite is also a puppeteer, but in a different way. Unlike the narcissist, they don’t need an audience, what they need are victims so they can act out as either a predator or a parasite. It doesn’t matter to them if it’s family or a stranger, so long as their needs are met. They are just as content stealing their mother’s life savings or moving from one spouse to another, so long as they can leech off their spouse’s bank account. While the narcissist prefers a servile audience, the predator parasite merely needs a human host that can do something for them.” (from Psychology Today ) For some reason I thought of the plot twist in the film The Dark Knight Rises . Without giving away too much to those who haven’t seen the movie yet – I was shocked when someone who was close to Bruce Wayne – turned out to be somewhat of a puppeteer and taking advantage of that relationship, is able to get close enough to stab unsuspecting Batman…So I don’t know if any kind of reform or makeover can salvage TWI – and if I were you Vern I’d watch my back. Sooooooo…I think Penworks has the right idea – dissolve TWI.