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After I left TWI, I realized my pre-TWI life was just as valid as during TWI. As posted above, we were taught to disavow our previous life as "old man" etc. i came to see my life a single thread, not a before and after. I reclaimed my previous life. I made a pie chart of my life with time in TWI highlighted. It's about a fifth of the pie and this point. As time goes by, the TWI section gets smaller and smaller....

I just have to shout about this. Mum has gone home from hospital today. No visitors allowed, so most days I've gone to visit and stand at her window (she was on the ground floor) and rang her mobile phone. We chatted and she would wave to me. But today, she was all ready in her going-home clothes, big jacket and all. The nurse saw me and offered to bring mum to sit in a seat at the window, and opened the window so that we could chat better. It only opens a few inches, lets air but no people in or out. But we could talk properly. It was soooo nice. Mum was walking well (for her) an

Speaking of The Way and the coronavirus – I wonder if anyone in or out of TWI has heard of any other “official” or even unofficial responses or statements coming from upper leadership about the coronavirus other than what has already been said on this thread by Rubina. I was looking on TWI’s website ( here is The Way's website ) and did not find any articles that address the pandemic - I did not look at every article – so maybe something got overlooked. I read an article posted Dec 30th 2020 “The Lilies and Grass of the Field” by The Way (see below * on a side note) and it’s jus

Happy Christmas, people! Yes, we are allowed to say that! (Season's greetings, if you prefer.) Have a joyful Christmas, careful New Year (especially if driving), and a very much better 2021.

Hey Grease Spotters, I’ve tried to think of a parting song since you won’t be seeing me around these parts until sometime next year …the tune is a daily double for those who’ve wagered on being free from a cult AND our indomitable human spirit…a cult leader once threatened that if we ever left his little crazy-town-kingdom , on that very day we’d be a grease spot by midnight…well for many of us, years upon years of midnights have come and gone and yet the cult leader’s “curse” has never come to pass – folks didn’t just up and die, suffer financial ruin, disappear into oblivion, turn into

That's quite a good article, T-Bone. And UK coverage of Trump has been - as fair as it could be, given there isn't a lot of good to report on - a lot comes via US channels like CNN but both BBC and ITV (Independent TV) have lots of reporters based in the US. We also have hate-speech laws and some of the horridly inflammatory language that I've heard on US clips is shocking. Would be a punishable offence in the UK. And before anyone jumps up and down - of course we have "free speech." But polite free speech - which means we can't go around inciting riots, or denigrating people fr

Hi Penguin 2, in the grand scam of things - it's been the same old bull$hit the whole time - the important thing is that you left !

Good question. I've read a few books published by Xulon & occasionally I hear an ad by them on the local Christian radio station on the way to work. That is why I gave you their web address when you asked for publishers. As far as the contest goes, their intentions are speculation to me. Maybe they are just trying to discover some new talented writers and the contest is a way to get people to send them material.

How about Incestuous Farmers Fvck You…or IFFY Usage has options: addressing them directly to express a heartfelt sentiment : "Hey Incestuous Farmers, fvck you !" referring to them by their abusive tactics: "TWI continues to screw their followers. That’s just so IFFY." or the much more declarative version "Those Incestuous Farmers fvck you every time!"

You sure got that right.

Well I for one have a regret over the years of providing way too much personal encouragement for @$$holes. Yes we stroked their egos. The way they have policy set up strokes their egos. I should not have told them they are great. They aren’t. I was part of the problem. I have since rectified this as you see. The Christians in the Way are part of the body of Christ. A deluded part that needs prayers. One that has a fake family with a lesbian couple at the helm. I mean not that I have extreme issues with the lesbian family part now. It’s just all the lies posturing and

Twinky that is awesome story of your mom. This pandemic sure challenges my mental health. Hope your mom feels all the love through all of the obstacles to expressing it. The good thing about the pandemic is all Christians are upping their online church game. This means finding a better church than the Way gets easier every month.

I think it was pretty heartless treatment of his wife to make her leave her newborn baby behind. I realized that after I became a mother.

These are some of the sources that I also use to check weird reports. I've seen people post on FB shouting about the latest news on, I dunno, the shortage of widgets, and it's easy to check on some of these fact check sites that the widget factory on the dark side of the moon has indeed cut production, but that's because the widget factory on the lighter side of the moon has doubled its production, and in total widget production is which now well in excess of previous combined production levels and there is a small surplus. So, there was a grain of truth in the original story - but it w

Outside the US, the US has been a source of amusement concerning the complete disconnect between some people and reality. The CDC is about as reliable a source as exists on Covid- and a lot of people would rather believe ignorant sources on Facebook and so on rather than the CDC. Nearly every other country is TIRED of Covid, but we're taking it seriously. The idea of it being used as a political litmus test is ridiculous. If the sharks are in the water, we stay on the beach if we go that far. That's not even getting into the other thing. If "mainstream media" means Facebo

“IF you believe 'mainstream media' concerning anything from corona virus to election results” – so WHERE do YOU get your information on anything from the coronavirus to election results? “a declining lack of critical thinking skills” actually says the shortage of critical thinking skills is on the decline - or simply - critical thinking skills are increasing – so thank you very much, I try, I try. “a headline reading only depth of engagement in the REAL facts” – I do not speak Yoda, but I ‘ll give this a shot; a headline is only a short text to grab your attention and draw you int

I agree with your sentiment Twinky…and it’s probably due to my experience of being in a cult and being told what to think and how to interpret a situation, that I’ve developed a weird mix that is a part-jaded-skeptical-critical-analytical-clinical-approach to how I gather information and process it all. I don’t think anyone has a perfect approach to sifting through what’s making headlines – but it’s not always as difficult as it seems. Most of the time it’s fairly easy to separate fact from fiction if you follow the accessible details. Without naming names and hopefully keeping this from

Part of the problem, T-Bone, is that in the US as I understand it, there is no requirement for fair and balanced reporting. So some rabid nutter with an idea can spout forth and there is no more balanced perspective presented at the time to say that rabid nutter's perspective is totally off the wall. Thus, if only watching (say) one news channel, one gets fed info that only promotes rabid nutter's PoV. Of course, in newspapers, there's a flavour, a bit of a bent, tht can put a slant on what news is promoted and how, but it's not as bad as on TV programmes or other media. Hence, you end up

Oh, I would like to share one bit of good news. My nearly-92 year old mother had a short spell in hospital after she tripped over her zimmer frame. They wanted to arrange some home care for her to try to improve her walking ability and kept her in for a week, during which time she contracted coronavirus. This was detected by a daily temperature check on the ward. When the week, or 8 days, or whatever, was up they discharged her to me (complete with coronavirus), saying they'd do a care assessment later (but getting the care assessment was the reason for the bloody delay!! she coul

Hello! I was in Ohio for most of my life, raised by my two parents who joined the way in the 70's. I was a somewhat enthusiastic "believer" until my early 20s and then I dove in - went Way Disciple after I graduated college then moved in with ministers in Syracuse, New York. I left everything behind and I was so worried that I wouldn't be okay without "God's protection." But I have to say, my life is improving. I have a master's degree, a great job, a great car, and will soon co-own a home. None of that would have been possible if I was still giving away 10%+ of my income and a

Hey @AC04Ohio! My husband and I both grew up in TWI and left 3 years ago at ages 26 and 28 when we became Christians. We were just talking about how thankful we are that we left TWI for actual Christianity, and that we’ve pursued stable careers in the tech industry. Welcome to the other side! The journey out can be a bit messy, so let us know if you need any support.

And a hopefully Merry New Year all through 2021.

Merry Christmas to you as well Twinky! Aren't you glad we no longer have to say happy ho ho! Peace and joy and hope for a great 2021 for all of you at the cafe!

Looks like they've set themselves up as some separate ministry, but it's associated with that splinter, Revival & Restoration. Teacher Profile: Rev. Gene Slavit | Montana Christian Festival Looking at the Resources page (links to various "ministries") from the Montana Christian Festival makes me think that the participants are mostly of ex-Wayfer stripe. "Gene Slavit is a Minister from Rancho Palos Verdes, California and has applied his classical studies degree from the University of Missouri to support Biblical research for more than forty years. He and his wife, S

He spent a LOT LESS time than he'd made it sound. To hear him say it, he was an involved dad and successful dog trainer. He always pushed responsibilities to other people- and raising people and dogs counted among those responsibilities. To hear vpw say it, he was the first minister to take his whole family on a missionary tour of India. Among the falsehoods in that statement was him taking "his whole family" (his words, not mine.) His youngest son, JP, stayed behind with grandparents for the SEVERAL MONTHS of the trip. In general, he spent LITTLE time actually raising his

Mark, here is one to check into: https://www.xulonpress.com/

Well, I was free - always free to make my own decisions, and I did. When I got involved with the Way and VPW, I already knew I didn't really "need" to do any of that - the Way Corps, being a member/non-member of the Way, get the cap, the t-shirt, the certificate, all of it, in order to be a fully functional Christian believer. I'd given that all up already once by not continuing formal relations with Roman Catholicism. I still felt and feel that my faith's roots are in that religion, as it's where I learned of Christ to begin with, where I read the bible in school, and began the journey

EyesWideOpen on "Corps Indoctrination: Twisted": Most of us entered into the Way Corps looking to increase our fellowship with God. We wanted to be ministers, teachers and pastors to the rest of the family of God. We didn't go in, as some people seem to think to become face melting salesmen for VP with a side job of washing windows. Pithy and succinct! George

The following exchange happened when discussing the assignments for the year, and the "make-work" nature of the reshuffling.... Just Thinking: "This is different from rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic how?" My 3 Cents: "Because they didn't use string to line up the chairs on the Titanic."