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  1. Good that this was split off from the main topic Too much of a distraction there. Carry on with your bunfight, boys!
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    Recently Returned to the Roman Catholic Church

    What is this? Huh? Is this specific RC doctrine, or something taught where you go, Oldies? Maybe you could expound a bit in Doctrinal?
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    Hi

    Hello, Norbetow. Welcome to the Café. Little bit quiet at the moment, but wait till one or two people come through the door, and start throwing things at each other, LOL. Meantime, have a coffee and a cake.
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    Splinter Cults are WORSE........not better

    Frankly, I don't give a fig for any of them. I simply don't care enough about any of it to get excited. Who can get excited about tatty old wineskins?I live my life the best I can doing what I can for the Lord, and that gets me excited enough. Well, that and the bottle of decent red wine that a friend and I just finished.
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    Victor Barnard pleads guilty

    Fun to speculate on the conversation in the prison cell between VB and Carmen T0rnamb3. D'ya think they'd spend time wondering why they were there, what they had done wrong? Perhaps VB would make Carmen a procurer again for him, this time of fresh young inmates so that they could be his bitches.
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    Victor Barnard pleads guilty

    I live in the UK and even I managed to see a TV doco about all this. So it's well "open knowledge." And no, I don't believe Carmen has been charged. Or even horse-whipped.
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    Victor Barnard pleads guilty

    Thanks, Rocky. One nasty PoS beats up another even nastier PoS. I note VB's attacker was himself a molester of underage kids. But he says VB deserved it and VB is a master manipulator. Wow. No surprises there, though. Not a great loss to society, these two.
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    Victor Barnard pleads guilty

    Can't open the link, what does it say? Obviously that VB was attacked - by whom, how badly? Not that I have a lot of sympathy, though he shouldn't have been attacked.
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    Belonging

    You might like this book, Rocky. It's by the so-called Vicar of Baghdad about his work of reconciliation in the community there. The book was given to me yesterday by an unbeliever friend - he'd read it and found it fascinating, which is quite something for him, being as he only read books on military history. https://www.amazon.com/Father-Forgive-Reflections-Andrew-White/dp/0857212923 Andrew White's "Reflections on Peacemaking." Available on Kindle, shows US$11, but possibly a different price if you order from a US internet address.
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    Belonging

    On a purely personal basis, after TWI dumped me and I fell deep into in a huge hole of despair, I was living in another country. I didn't feel at home in my own country and not among my own family. I didn't feel at home or comfortable anywhere. But I did feel a huge need to "belong" somewhere, and specifically to my new country. So I applied for naturalisation and now have dual nationality. I am not sure whether the naturalisation helped, because I came back to my original country a couple of years afterwards. I remain keenly interested in my second country even though I don't live there now; I visit frequently; family matters keep me here now but maybe at some time in the future...? I feel I "belong" in my church community. Both here and in the other country. When I visit the other country I go to a church there, St C's, which is so like St A's that I attend here that it's a real home from home. If I'd know about St C's I might never have left. Ha ha. If we knew what the future held, would we still want it? I think my immediate future holds - a cup of tea. And maybe a piece of cake.
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    Belonging

    I checked out the website for the author of the book you suggest, Rocky. She's a "bright young thing" and I noticed her video of people dancing, playing together, and generally looking as though they were having a good time. I'd just make the point that it's ever so easy to feel lonely in a big crowd where you feel you ought to be having fun … but somehow, the fun has passed you by. It seems to me that the best way to "belong" is to participate in something you're interested in and to give of yourself, which is harder than it seems. Forget yourself, and think about the other participants, or the activity itself. And enjoy, too. Enjoy "belonging."
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    Belonging

    We’re social animals. We’re not built to live alone, but in relationship with one another. A rather famous book tells us “It is not good for [man] to be alone.” I’ve been pondering “relationships” for some while now. We all have relationship, ideally across several groups. Doesn’t matter who you are, or what you do: there are few of us that have no relationships. Maybe it’s a church. Maybe it’s the model railway club. Maybe it’s your mates as you enjoy a drink in the pub. Your relationships help you feel grounded, safe, a part of where you are: you belong. As Rocky comments, I work with vulnerable and street people. The homeless community is exactly that: a community. Like any other community, it has sub-branches. This particularly struck me last Saturday night, talking with a woman who’d settled into a doorway. She wouldn’t go into the covered car park where homeless people often stay – “They’re dirty people down there.” We visited that group of people too. There were five of them, smoking heroin and doing other drugs. A very weird bunch. But a definite “community” and supportive of each other. Sometimes, relationships aren’t helpful. The drug-taking (or drinking, or whatever) people that we saw – it’s hard to leave for those who want to be clean, to start afresh. They have to leave that “support” group and take steps into a world that they left because it was painful or frightening. And that world doesn’t really want them because it sees them as a problem. They don’t “belong” in the non-druggie world. I don’t know if Rocky started this thread because of the Charles Manson thread, where we discussed reintegration into society after many years in prison. Ex-prisoners often have a huge problem reintegrating. By getting incarcerated, they cease to “belong” to the “non-con” world, and generally prison doesn’t help people address the cause of their offending and rehabilitate them to a more “normal” (?) world. They don’t belong there; they don’t feel safe. Some reoffend because they like being in jail. They feel safe. They feel they’re in a community where they belong. In the UK now, there’s a push to remove all custodial sentences of less than 12 months, because of the realisation of the huge breaking of support bonds, relationships, within the “non-con” world. Better to keep people in their existing relationships – better from so many points of view, but not least, to help people not re-offend. (It doesn’t mean offenders aren’t punished; just that they don’t go to prison – probation, community service orders, requirements to undertake courses like anger management etc, reparation of various types) (and obviously, not for very serious offences.)
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    Why did you take "THE CLASS?"

    I'm sorry about that, Pamdalarryum. Great example of "more harmony in the home." TWI counselling, ha ha ha. I suppose the only decent thing out of it was that the Corpsman married your wife; it wasn't the usual "date and switch" where a marriage was broken up and both were left hanging. Very difficult for you when it came to looking after the two children. Well done, you, for the way you've coped with it all.
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    Charles Manson

    So this infamous cult leader has finally died, in prison. No loss to society. Any thoughts, anyone? What happened to his followers? Were any imprisoned? Released? Gone on to be helpful, or horrible, members of society?
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    Charles Manson

    Unfortunately all too true. In my voluntary work with homeless and vulnerable people, I've found two main reasons for homelessness. The main one is relationship breakdown; the second is coming out of prison. There may be an interrelationship, but we don't usually ask why they went to prison in the first place, though in some cases it's because of violence, quite possibly towards their partner or wider family. Younger homeless people might be there because of family breakdown. Then they might turn to drugs to fund their unhappy lifestyle and they get a free bed and board at public expense. When people are released, the problems that put them in prison in the first place haven't been magically healed but rather are considerably exacerbated, not to mention the arrested emotional development that most ex-prisoners sustain. I suppose it all comes down to relationship breakdown really. I don't know why Manson committed his crimes, what his background was. I don't know why the young women joined him as partners in crime. I don't know why Leslie VH's background made her vulnerable to joining his murderous bunch. His little cult. Why she let him twist her mind to commit heinous crimes. I do know why some of us joined a cult, how unhappy at home relationships some of us were, what family stresses there were, and what life was life for some people. We too let our minds be re-formed, and then did utterly reprehensible things and also treated non-cult people heinously. For many of us, post-leaving has been/was difficult and it was hard to recover. For some of those in long-term - what do they do but go off and start another cult, seeking the life that they knew before. Keep themselves safe in the prison of their mind. Relationships. Relationships: build good strong relationships. Help your kids, grandkids, and those around you to build decent relationships. Befriend the vulnerable and help them back into relationship with society. Okay. Lesson for the day over. Bit early in the morning (before 10am) to be pondering such deep thoughts. I will wake up properly in about half an hour. Now, where's the caffeine? (= me with morning tea)
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    Charles Manson

    US prison sentences are obscenely long, well, the whole prison system really, but let's not go there in this discussion. At the age of 69, to be released would be almost, if not more, horrendous for her than imprisoning her in the first place. She has no-one of her own age (at least, not "straight" people, probably knows plenty of ex-cons), no place to go, probably very little support (genuine support, not a probation service), not that much knowledge of how the world "works" to be able to fit into it; and who knows what illnesses she may have acquired in prison - mental or physical. Limited options available, of which two are homelessness and living on the street; and committing further crimes (theft, robbery) to meet whatever physical/food needs she has. It would be small wonder if (if released) she didn't commit further crimes so as to get returned to prison, the environment she knows.
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    Visit the old Waydale website again!

    Try this link instead: http://web.archive.org/web/20030215211031/http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main/aboutus.htm
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    Military WoW Ambassadors

    I don't know anything about "military Wow" but it would obviously differ significantly from the normal WoW program, in that your time and locations are tightly controlled by someone other than TWI. I'd like to know more about the program. Did anyone on it get to spend time off base with other believers in the countries they were stationed in (f such people existed) or with locals (to witness to)? (I suspect there was very little of the latter interchange.)
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    Why did you take "THE CLASS?"

    Hilarious! Yes, definitely expensive in Way-style finding God. Not just expensive in money terms, either. In shattered lives and relationships. Did your marriage improve, or completely fall apart?
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    Events relating to Holy Week

    And could have been more. Maybe a lot more. The Romans were in the habit of mass crucifixion, as a means of terrifying the locals. Quote from Wikipedia, but same information also noted on a number of other websites: We know from Gospel records that the prisoner Barabbas was released instead of Jesus. In Matt 27:16 Barabbas is called a “notorious prisoner.” In Mark 15:7, echoed in Luke 23:19, he was “in prison with the rebels who had committed murder during the insurrection” against the occupying Roman forces. John 18:40 describes him as a bandit. So it may be that there were plenty of others being made a terrifying example of, on the day of Jesus's murder, if the Romans chose to also execute some of the others involved in the insurrection (perhaps that's who some of the "malefactors" were?). A couple of dozen, as a "gentle reminder," would probably suffice to deter many people from wanting to join future rebellions. No need to mention them all, just sketch in a couple of details here and there, as in so many Biblical records. We all know that the Bible cannot, and does not at any time purport to, record every detail of every event.
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    Countdown 2019

    How much of the journalism on this did you do, Raf? (You must have done some, you're very proud of it!) Regrettably, I can't read your (or anyone else's) stunning prose. Tell your newspaper to make itself more widely available (at least to those who'd never have an opportunity to see it otherwise).
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    Countdown 2019

    Congratulations, that was worth the wait. Washington Post was in the same category; your newspaper beat them! Well done. Wish I could read the articles, but their website isn't available in Europe.
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    Countdown 2019

    Soooooo..…. what's a-happenin' in 6 hrs time? At 3pm Miami time? This'd better be worth the tease, Raf!
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    Idiom of Permission

    Outside of Waydom and mini-me Waydom (splinter groups), has anybody ever heard of the "idiom of permission"? If yes - in the sense promoted by VPW? Bullinger has an article on it which VPW has picked up on (plagiarized from someone else's work), of course, but apart from that? Anybody out there who has a degree in English Lit or is a grammar teacher who can shed any light? I got into a discussion with my church's "vicar theologian" (a highly educated man, with real research papers to his name) - suggested something could be this "idiom of permission" - he gave me that pained, patient "what planet are you from?" look that Wayfers become all too familiar with when speaking with "church" people. So just wondering...
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