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  1. So come and join some other threads NOT related to TWI, PFAL, or anything of like nature. Schmooze away in Open about the dancing you've been doing. Chat about a book you read. Tell a few jokes.
  2. I found it really hard when I got out. I'd hooked up with some exWayfers who were running fellowships in their home: two fellowships in nearby cities. And one of these exWayers generously allowed me to stay with him while I was in the process of buying my house. None of these people had been Corps - in fact, I don't even know if any of them had taken the advanced class. I was pretty broken and smashed about at the time, but they couldn't hear the pain I was in, couldn't hear the things I said. The female most sympathetic just thought I should get over it; another male thought he could lor
  3. Interesting vid, Waysider. Yep, seen it all before; far too familiar story. Right down to the enormous effort needed to break the hold of cult-brain. Glad the young woman's parents were able to rescue her. (Zumba in dark glasses!)
  4. Ah! The long white night. Enjoy Alaska. I would like to visit there one day.
  5. I think this is a serious question, but not quite the one posed. What is witnessing? I don't think it's going around banging on people's doors, and harassing them in parking lots and shopping malls. I don't know who has ever been "won to the Lord" by such means. More, it's likely to turn them off and certainly make the "witnessee" regard the witnesser with a cautious look. Witnessing is more like "living it" and letting your life show what you believe. "...be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you..." (1 Pet 3:15), is what
  6. Er ... what are you on, T-Bone? Too much wine, too much weed, something else?
  7. Mike, JCOP, JCNG and JCPOS are not in the Orange Book. And - the epistles were seriously venerated; the gospels were despised. (Yes they were, Mike!) JCNG was pushed, as a way of distinguishing TWI from more mainline churches. The others you mention weren't particularly promoted; they are better and more researched (but still with a lot of bias) - but much more emphasis was on the PFAL books and venerating TWI's "Promised Seed," Victor-Paul Wierwille. And besides hardly giving the gospels a mention, the schedule, especially in the WC, was so controlled and so overburdened that the
  8. I noticed that, too. I thought it too pathetic to even mention. Such an amazing offering.... not.
  9. What we say: "Church policy explicitly demands Scientologists abide by all laws of the land, including the reporting of crimes. This is blatantly clear in the documents we understand were put before the Court — and many others,” Pouw wrote, repeatedly noting the church is not a party in the criminal case. “The Court either did not read them in full or ignored them. It should have done neither. Interpretation of Church doctrine by the courts is prohibited and the ruling is evidence of why.” What we do: "the church document amounted to an admission by the woman that her encounter
  10. I'm not sure that God was left out of the class; but certainly Jesus was. I found myself in later years with a deeper knowledge of God, and very little of Jesus and what he did and accomplished. That's because the gospels were ignored, and instead, the focus was only really on the epistles. Only passingly touched the OT. God-conscious, but not Jesus-conscious. Still working on that.
  11. Hey Socks! Long time no see! Welcome back. Yes, exactly. I wonder if a digital subscription like this is going to become "required purchasing." I am fairly certain that most (all?) people who post here would not be welcome to subscribe. Feel free to visit most normal religious organisations, for free services and teachings.
  12. Thanks, WW. Saved me the trouble. Apologies for the accidental strikethrough. I can't get rid of it. Unintentional
  13. It's your hard-earned money that these people are spending. Yes - give locally, where you can see what the church is doing. Give generously - but give wisely. Also give to genuinely worthwhile charities - you should be able to check out a charity to see its status and effectiveness - there are websites dedicated to assessing charities' effectiveness. There are very good charities that won't score highly on such assessment sites, so find out at a local level what they do. Part of my personal "scoring" level is the things I am thankful for (good, free, healthcare, clean water etc) an
  14. Of course, you can still subscribe for CDs and DVDs: The Way International News and Events | The Sunday Teaching Service—Available in Your Own Home Huh. They always did charge for the CDs or audio tapes or whatever they were. I could understand that they might want to cover postage. But to charge for online?? Gosh! Every other church I know does livestream AND usually makes available on a YouTube channel - FREE!! Anybody can look in. Hey, for starters, here's last Sunday's service. Part live, part pre-recorded. But hey! Things will be back to all-live very soon. (1) 16 May
  15. I just found this: The Way International News and Events | Digital Sunday Teaching Service Subscriptions
  16. So I tossed something new into the mix. You clearly didn't think that worth discussing. Mike, you might get less flak if you started discussing, and stopped obsessing. Remember 2 Cor 5 "Therefore we are ambassadors for Christ," (Can I say that again? for CHRIST. Not for a class, not for any other individual) and ... ... (2 Cor 6) We have spoken freely to you, Mike, and opened wide our hearts to you. 12We are not withholding our affection from you, but you are withholding yours from us. 13As a fair exchange—I speak as to my children—open wide your hearts also, or, as Authorise
  17. Thing about a "class" (any class) is that it should ultimately become invisible. It should become a basic instruction - about anything - and one builds upon it, with experience. For instance: I know where I did my legal studies. I know what classes I took: land law, constitutional law, tort, etc etc. I studied law for three years for my Bachelor's degree, then did my Law Society finals (a really intense year) then did my legal apprenticeship ("articles") for another two years. Then, I was admitted to the Roll as a lawyer. And I practised and got better at applying the law, and findin
  18. I think Mike has left the building (again).
  19. In the same way that "it takes a village to raise a child," it takes a whole congregation to raise - each other! We are to have the humility to consider others more worthy, and to learn from them; to let them mentor us. In the same way, we also are examples and mentors to others; always bear that in mind. A Prayer Coordinator in a Christian group talked to us about the "smorgasbord of ways to pray" - some like to sit or stand, some like corporate and some private prayer; some sing, doodle, draw, etc. What about the smorgasbord of "acting out" Christ? You know Jesus on this
  20. Mike, I really thought you were going somewhere with this. Because then, and now, we should all be looking for people who are demonstrating the love ofG od (if you like, "the Christ in them") . I thought perhaps you were being honest in seeking mentors. But then you say: Please, Mike. Understand that Christ is bigger than PFAL. To find a mentor to "act out" Christ, widen your search. Look at lives of others: Here's Phil 2:3 in Amplified: Amplified Bible Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit [through factional motives, or strife], but with [an attitude of] humilit
  21. I know some seriously smart people, Mike. Like, seriously. Theologians (and yes, he's a respected international expert), linguists and English teachers, and others whose livelihood depends on words. Bullinger had some serious creds, too, and an intense background in Hebrew and Greek. I don't know if he made up these FoS, but if nobody else has heard of them... I wonder... Of course, if a clever preacher from Ohio (and a non-academician) knows better... I'd have more confidence in that preacher if he understood tenses in English verbs, even the more simple English tenses that I kn
  22. I think he invented a lot of his FoS - not all of them. I have talked with academicians, one a very respected, genuinely published theologian with mighty tomes to his name, and questioned them about whether xxx FoS fits with what they're saying about yyy in the Bible. Guaranteed blank looks; they've never heard of the FoS xxx.
  23. Please don't put words in my mouth (or words on my posts!), Mike. I asked an honest question. An honest answer would be nice. Now that is so important. Especially for me, right now. Such a lot going on regarding people around me, and their "stuff" impacts negatively on me. I need to remember God's abundant blessings and that God has always "come through" for me - though not necessarily at the time I think it's necessary. And often, not in the way I expect. There is "being anxious for nothing" and "casting all your care on Him - and then, there's leaving it there - and that's th
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