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don't know which I am most of the time, both I'm sure saw your edit in the 1st post, modcat, no problems, these things work themselves out

Greetings, earthlings. fwiw, imho, If I may...Tragic as this may sound, I find it helps to notice how our general social and cultural fluency and competency in symbol, myth, and archetypes and such seems currently mostly in a dumpster fire. And there is this seeming endless war, not only between many folks holding onto various conflicting so-called literal interpretations of ancient writings, but between many other folks who easily debunk the many so-called literal interpretations yet also seem to believe they have debunked religion altogether and erased all its value from the past, present and future of our planet. Meanwhile, all along, many other folks have been interpreting and living and applying all that religion in significantly sound and vital ways, but are also either ignored, avoided, attacked or simply remain undiscovered by all the other folks. Some good news, perhaps, is that its not only possible to find real meaning in storytelling, but our wisdom, sanity and wholeness has always depended on our capacities to do so. "Truth, naked and cold, had been turned away from every door in the village. Her nakedness frightened the people. When Parable found her she was huddled in a corner, shivering and hungry. Taking pity on her, Parable gathered her up and took her home. There, she dressed Truth in story, warmed her and sent her out again. Clothed in story, Truth knocked again at the doors and was readily welcomed into the villagers’ houses. They invited her to eat at their tables and warm herself by their fires." Jewish teaching story.