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Psalm 14:2 New Living Translation (NLT) 2 The Lord looks down from heaven on the entire human race; he looks to see if anyone is truly wise, if anyone seeks God. From this verse in Proverbs, we see that people during O.T. times, thought of Heaven as being someplace that was "up" and that God resides there. Otherwise, how could He look "down"? But, does that mean that ANYWHERE that is "up" above Earth is Heaven? I don't see it saying that. It makes it sound more like Heaven is a specific place, like Neptune or Pluto. Both of them are "up" above the Earth's surface but, both occupy specific spacial locations, not just any old place above the Earth. In my opinion, I don't think that people from ancient cultures thought of Heaven as being any place above Earth. I think they thought of it as being a specific location. But, Wierwille's definition, like so many other definitions he propounded, was a very "convenient" way to deal with something that might appear contradictory or, at the very least, unexplainable. That was Wierwille's premise. Everything has to be explainable, has to "fit like a .....", even if he had to fabricate the explanation to make it fit.