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We'll never have enough to be CONCLUSIVE, but we know a lot about what happened. lcm HIMSELF gave the account, when he was applauding vpw and lauding him to the skies in "vp and me." We had the account in the thread "vp and me in wonderland." ""Dr and LCM always fought for people to stay in the Corps. There was an incident of a guy in the Corps who all of a sudden went "gooney-bird". He started to babble and not make sense. LCM worked hard with the guy to help him but he was incoherent. Dr, when he met him, confronted him by asking- 'Son, how come you're letting your mind get all scrambled?' The guy answered unintelligibly and Dr told him that it would be best for him just to pack his bags and go home. The guy understood that. He left. LCM spent many hours and many long distance phone calls trying to make sure the guy had gotten home from his bus ride home safely. Not being able to verify his location, he was concerned. Dr told him to move on. There's nothing you can do, he'll show up at home soon enough. A week later the guy did show up at home." Mind you, lcm had a BA in Psychology, and SHOULD have been able to give some USEFUL description here, but he did not. lcm ATTEMPTED to do SOMETHING with the guy. vpw-whose only background in Psychology was POSSIBLY Jay Adams' book "Competent to Counsel" (recommended to the corps and advocating CONFRONTING people)- CONFONTED a man with an obvious physical problem. He needed a medical evaluation. He could have had a stroke, a critical vitamin deficiency, or any of a number of other things. vpw's answer? "Pack your bags and go home." lcm-like any normal person- worried that he'd get home safely. After all, it was a frighteningly CALLOUS and USELESS thing to take him, get NO medical help, NO medical EVALUATION, then dump him on a series of buses to get home EVENTUALLY. But we have no way of knowing anything but that he got home, days later. We don't know the authorities WEREN'T called. We don't know another passenger didn't take pity on him and talk him through stops for food and rest for a day or something. We know he was able to pack, more or less. We don't know what the problem was or if he was going to drop dead on the bus. (There was no medical evaluation. Even a school has a nurse on hand to do an evaluation and determine if a hospital is needed. A paramedic would have been something. But there was no preparation at the "facility" of any kind.) We know he was incoherent. We do not know why or if it was a symptom of something more dangerous. vpw just kicked him off-grounds and said to forget about him. This was a pretty standard policy with twi. One ex-WOW said they had a horrible incident on the field, and was traumatized. They were put on a bus and told to go home. They took several days to get home as well because they were traumatized and didn't have the clarity of mind to get home safely. They got lost at an early stop and had a SECOND traumatic experience in trying to get home while being mentally incapable. So, MAYBE the guy was suddenly and mysteriously all better and made a tour of his rip home. MAYBE the guy collapsed on a bus and local help was gotten for him. Either outcome is possible because he was put on a bus right after an acute psychiatric incident with no medical evaluation. Any place would be legally liable for placing someone in danger like that. They had a fiduciary responsibility toward the students in their program. But vpw saw all the responsibility go ONE WAY-FROM the students. He never saw all the things HE OWED them-which is why he never offered them. I believe devils can cause problems, but that doesn't mean medical attention is dismissed. Some people believe devils can exploit existing medical conditions and in that case, getting proper medical care would thwart them. But in twi, it was simple-and LAZY and UNEDUCATED- to blame the supernatural for every intangible problem. This added the convenience of giving them the excuse of not offering tangible solutions.