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Well, I don't know. Yes this place is one-sided, in that active posters generally are not active TWI members, but people recovering from previously being active TWI members. (oh yes I know the play on words where these don't exist and there are no active members). Also, with the facts and stories that have come out about VPW's plagiarism and adultery, people tend to judge him on that alone. That is not unique. Look at Lance Armstrong in the news. The golden boy 7 time Tour de France champ who overcame cancer and wrote an inspirational best-seller called "It's Not About the Bike". However, interviews with people that lived around him uncovered some very deep character flaws. He cheated. The races he competed in he got disqualified because he cheated. And that's people's view about him now. And it is an appropriate view. It's just and fair. Look there's a verse in Timothy that says "I so run that I obtain". The word obtain and the context carries the connotation that you strive lawfully so that you are not disqualified from your race. VPW ran a race being a minister and starting a ministry. He has been disqualified in that race for illegally using his competitors work and for taking advantage of his young female followers. This means that he did not win the race, no matter how badly people want to make excuses for him. He lost. DQ. So whatever we salvage from our TWI experience, VP's teachings, and whatever we decide to do with continuing on participating in groups that may or may not use his work, it behooves us not to bury our head in the sand concerning what happened in the race.