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Mr.Mike I concede you that there's some people out there uploading PFAL content and so... However, when you say "Second Wave" it sounds like "The Second Industrial Revolution" or something like that. I guess you know the figure of speech "Hyperbole". Greetings. Love and Mercy.

I feel so identified by your story man, cause i was raised as a "way-believer", but when i was in my 23-25s my family was kicked off. Never to return although some guys from the off-shoots tried to recruit us. But you do not know how well it feels to do whatever you want... and don't feel guilty about it, not expecting a telling off.... God Bless U

"Well, if I'm going to comment, I need to sit through it. " [OK, 12 minutes isn't that long, but it's long enough to analyze and to make observations about the content or the presentation. What did you get from it?] "This video is nothing more than a guy thinking evil and going on a 12 minute rant about it. There's more. You can tell by listening to his vocal flow, that he's obsessed. He's run those thoughts through his mind rapid fire for decades. Martindale wasn't that bad when he talked about Jews and homos. Even VPs teaching 'the way of life and death' wasn't that out of control. The guy's a whack job. " [That's a gross MIScharacterization of this video. I know, because I just watched it, and the presentation is completely different from your claims. The speaker was calm and kept to his points. There was no "rant". Furthermore, there was no indication from his speech that he was "obsessed." As a student of Psychology AND Human Communication, I've studied this out before. There's no "vocal flow" of "obsessed" there. He spoke calmly- and you said he was worse than men who were known to scream AND hurl insults at everyone they disagreed with. This man "disagreed without being disagreeable." All of that CAN be catalogued independently of the content. That you missed the mark so completely reflects a lack of understanding of making such an analysis, and an inability to separate his message (of which you disapprove) from his presentation (which you distorted because it contains a message you dislike. I try not to do that even of people I strongly dislike. ] "Victor Paul Wierwille's Power for abundant living class did indeed do one thing very well.....it drew a line in the sand which clearly separated mainstream Christianity, which is STILL based on man made traditions not found in scripture...from biblical research, which is based on the firm belief that the words in the bible as originally given by God, are truth, God breathed, whatever you want to call it. " [The "line in the sand" was between all other Christians- who were maligned and insulted at every turn, characterized as ignorant and useless- and vpw and his students, who were characterized as the ONLY Christians who knew anything and were any good for anything. "Them" were characterized as unable to read the Bible or see anything past their traditions, and "us" were characterized as the only Christians with The Truth because we had vpw's "God-given" understanding of the Bible, and no traditions of our own. Those are ALL demonstrably false, all the way down to twi having made its own traditions. An inability to see the distinction DECADES LATER does NOT do you credit.] "I've attended a few churches since leaving TWI. Those people are mostly Christians, not glassy eyed robots. They know a lot of the same stuff we do. " [Yes! They're people "FOR WHOM CHRIST DIED." As are you.] "But they still believe Jesus is God, that dead people aren't really dead, they don't understand incorruptible seed ( they think they can be saved one moment and unsaved the next), some of them think they might go to hell for playing outside on Sunday. THAT should be regarded as brainwashing! " [ It's shocking how UNimportant those are in the scheme of things. If you obey Jesus because he answers directly to God, says exactly what God would say, and commands your fealty as your lord who is The Son of God, or if you obey Jesus because he is God the Son himself, the results from your end work out the same! If you obey God because you love Him and want to make Him proud of you, or if you obey God because you believe it's mandatory, the results from your end work out the same! Although, in fairness, under vpw's system, actually obeying God is less likely because it's given a LOW PRIORITY. As for "brainwashing", you don't understand the concept if that's what you think.] "People don't join cults because they're "brainwashed"...they join because they want more substance than they're ever going to get from their church. Not everybody feels that way, but, obviously, enough people do so there will always be small religions that spring up which bigotted mainstream ministers will be likely to label as "cults". " ]People don't ALL join cults for ONE reason or the SAME reason. Some do join because they are brainwashed. Also, people IN cults who are still in the honeymoon phase really do think what it's like inside is superior to everything else outside, like all the churches out there. If you don't understand what brainwashing is, nor cults, you're not going to be able to tell the difference between a small church and a cult. BTW, vpw was fond of making them sound synonymous because that served his purposes. You don't need to fall for that anymore.]