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I've been thinking about this post since I made it. I kind of put this experience away when it happened. That's gotta be some sort of trauma response because there was nothing I could do and none of the adults on cam[us said anything about it. The only thing I heard was "Poor her. Her believing wasn't there". So instead of being mad, we were embarrassed. I can tell you, if that happened to my wife or children today, I wouldn't brush it off. Sometimes sharing a story is liberating. In this case it gave me the anger I should have had in the first place. I spent all weekend ....ed off. 30 plus years later.

In a different thread, I talked about a situation I had with a sub parent in Rome City. It reminded me of another sub parent story that really upset me and to this day I fail to see the logic that TWI used in this situation. My mother was from The Bronx. She had zero camping our “outdoor life” experience. She was also chubby and not in great shape. While she was on LEAD, someone told her to go back to base camp to retrieve something. She told the LEAD coordinator that she didn’t know how to get back to base camp. She was told to take a left at the Gambel Oak. She had no idea what that meant and was yelled at when she said so. Someone told her to “Ask God”. She was afraid to reply so she went on her way and proceeded to walk off the side of a mountain and she broke her back. To this day she has trouble walking. This should have been a lawsuit as her life was never the same after this. She limps and has a lot of pain and was not allowed to see a doctor. As a result, her spine healed incorrectly and vertebrae are permanently fused together. That’s bad enough but it gets worse. She was driven back to Rome City and was “reproved” for failing LEAD and was told she might not graduate. When she got back to Rome City, she was bed bound but was placed in a remote room far away from her actual bed. They basically stashed her in an attic. I had no idea that she had fallen, no clue that she had hurt herself and no one told me she was back. I was living life thinking she was in Colorado on LEAD and my sub parent was in on the charade. She was home for a week before someone let it slip that she was home. I still have no idea why someone thought it would be a good idea to literally hide my mother from me. When I asked leadership about it, I was told that she had a failure in her believing that opened her up to the adversary and that he caused her to fall. They said they didn't want her to see me until she was "ready". It turned out she had been asking for me the whole time. I cannot believe I stayed after this, but I was a child and so I did.

This is beyond disturbing. This is abject wickedness. Behavior of such horrific depravity does not occur in a state of nature. Children do not act like this, unless they are "taught." Adults do not behave this way, unless they are "taught." Who is "the teacher"? It all goes back to "the teacher." All of it. All. Of. It. Victor wierwille, the thief come to kill, steal and destroy, laid the foundation. The buck stops with him. Had he gone on to sell home warranties or read palms at a county fair or any other endeavor matching his skill set, none of this would have happened.

This is one of the most disturbing things I’ve heard. I’m so sorry this happened to your mom and you. Has your mom sought legal advice? There’s probably a time limit on legal action against them but it wouldn’t hurt to inquire. And may I ask which family corps you were in?

So sorry this happened. It's beyond disturbing that they call themselves a Christian organization.