JustThinking

He had other matters to attend to....so many women so little time

So that's what his "Rise & Expansion" book was about? (Ok, that was cheesy) I actually bought a copy but only read the portions we read as a group. Didn't the AC grads have reviews of some sort of his book? My memory is kind of fuzzy but I seem to remember there was some mandatory thing about his book.

Anyone else remember that?

JT

Last straw? It wasn't anything dramatic at all. It happened one night which was like so many others. A room of dispirited folks going through the motions. Blah, blah, blah, moving the Word, blah, blah, blah... I finally got honest with myself and admitted that my heart wasn't in it at all. It was a sham that was hurting people. Not news now but I was definitely a hard core wayfer at one point.

Death by a million paper cuts, I guess.

JT

Yes. When numbers in a limb start to dip below 100, then they would ask the person to go get a job.

Wow, do they have many/any with over 100?

JT

That didn't really seem to matter, did it?

George

At HQ, it seems to have been a requirement. :-(

JT

When I was there the numbers were all hush hush. I can tell you that it's common for limb coordinators who do not want to work a secular job to keep people on the books who left long ago. Pathetic.

Any idea what the minimum number is to keep that job?

JT

Bumping up in hopes of getting new info.

TrustandObey, thanks for what you provided last time.

JT

There's not enough people left to have a mass exit.

How great is that?!

JT

I dunno. well.. maybe.. just maybe.. he really WANTED some disturbed woman to assault him, and drag him to the floor..

So, you're saying that his needs and her wants were parallel? Literally? :)

JT

TWI's web site seems to be full of the same jargon they used 20 year ago. Phrases like 'lap into', 'labor", 'what is available', etc. are, in my opinion, still ways of being "different." Different, in their minds, makes them special. Other than better packaging and marketing, it looks the same.

As an aside, I did my best to look at everything without prejudice. However, even the styling of the them poster's artwork looks like 1992. The religious version of the The Land That Time Forgot.

JT

Maybe I've just become a cynic in my old age, but, I wouldn't be surprised to find that TWI has an ulterior motive.

I'm there with you. If not, it would likely be the first time....

JT

I thought this was going to be a thread about the motorcoach or the Green Room....

Uhh...I actually thought the same thing. Maybe I've been here too long?

JT

have to burn all your toys because your parents say the are "devilish"

Burn them? Aren't most toys plastic? Bet that smelled. Nice memory. I'm sorry for you.

And welcome to the Cafe. It's nice to have you here.

JT

You'd rather stand in a muddy cornfield in Ohio than visit your relatives.

Instead of visiting relatives, you agree to SLEEP in said cornfield during a rain storm. In a tent. When it's cold at night. And you leave the tent wearing a trash bag poncho.

Aahhh...the good ol' days.

JT

Why do I feel hungry when I think about "familia" spirits?

That made me snicker. :)

JT

Does anyone remember taking that off-beat class LCM taught live about devil spirits and being born again of the wrong seed? I think it was in 1992.

Truly a strange class. I remember very little about it except him ranting about staying away from his desk during breaks and not peeking into his files.

"Well," I thought, "why don't you just lock the damn drawer?"

I guess that was too logical.

WG

WG,

I do remember that! Not much from the class stayed though. (I tended to tune out when he started yelling and spitting) Do you remember the name?

JT

[how does one make a chequered pattern?]

You have to

1. Vacuum in one straight line starting along the wall.

2. Pick up the upright (canister won't work)

3. Move it over so that each row doesn't overlap the others

4. Continue across the room

5. Repeat process but perpendicular to original lines

The key is to step in the squares while pulling the vacuum towards you. That way you remove your footprints from the carpet pile.

Funny how I haven't thought about this in years. Repressed memory, I suppose. Maybe that's why stringing chairs didn't seem so bad?

JT

I visited an old friend who was a corps grad, about 10 years ago while traveling through his city.

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He came back excited, telling me Geer made 4 crucified 'really live'. I guess the 500 other times he heard that teaching didn't for some reason.

And that's as close to Geer's class as I will ever get.

hiway,

Do you think he really was excited or was he putting on what we used to call "Wayface." (That phony excitement you showed to hide boredom, exhaustion, etc)

JT

When you get yelled for not vacuuming the LC's house incorrectly. After getting there at 7 AM to clean HIS house! Rrrr... And my house did NOT get cleaned because he lived an hour away.

For those of you who are not spiritual enough, there should be a checkered pattern in the carpet fibers after vacuuming PROPERLY. Like the lawn on a golf course. No, really. I am NOT making this up. Who knew?

JT

Only if it's shill witnessing at the mall.

We can herald forth the amazin' and stuporpendous theme of God's prevailing ministry as revealed to his awesomely marvahlous leaders chosen to lead God's people who are now in the Blessed Land of the Prevailing Word of Truth which can only be understood by paying 100 smackers to the local... ahhh, you get the idea.

My pick for this years theme?

God's Prevailing Stuff: Read 'em again, people!

2nd choice:

God's Decidedly Devious Decade: Living to Provide My Means

JT

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Too funny WS! You have truly captured the heart of Der Ministry! This is also what was playing in my head during phone hookups. :)

JT

Patriot,

To answer your curiosity, I looked at my friends mag this afternoon which had a pic of the graduating Corps this summer, Coprs 38 I believe.. And I counted "about" 16 adults (6 kids)..

Is there still a Family Corps or are the numbers too small to have separate groups? Can you tell how many of the 16 adults are couples?

JT

Wouldn't you just love to see a video of that now?

Only if we can also watch it again one night this week so my kids are exhausted for school. Oh, can we also go witnessing afterwards?

JT

I am SO happy to say that I didn't even think about it. Woopee!!!!! Yes!!!

JT

I dunno.. this is kinda a side note to the discussion.. but considering leonard couldn't see through huckster vic.. let's just say I'm not exactly impressed with leonards operation of "discerning of spirits" or something..

maybe the product was flawed, to begin with..

Ham,

I have to agree. You could put that sticker on everything they did. Promise a lot, deliver nothing. You pay for the class and you do the work.

My first region meeting, I met a very gay corps person. Nobody seemed to notice but me, the new guy. ??? Turns out he later came out. Didn't need the AC to see that one!

JT

I wish I knew who came up with the idea of going, listening, reviewing, etc. God knows and he's probably still mad.

In the late 90's they started doing reviews of the previous week's SNS as part of the SNS itself. then we had to devote one teaching a week at fellowship to teaching the same subject as was on the SNS, and doing a review at fellowship of the tape. So we had to hear the same crap 4 times:

• The tape itself
• The review on the next tape
• The teaching at fellowship
• and the review at fellowship

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AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!! Such bad memories!! Mind numbing boredom beyond belief. This was part of what finally got me to wake up. I brought a friend one night and it was a surprise event! Something fun? No. Something interesting? No. Something outside, involving food or anything else people equate with "surprise?" NO! We're going to watch the SNS video from the anniversary! Woopee!!!! And then we would review and discuss the video. We had ALL been there for the event! (How does one "review and discuss" musical productions?) :wacko: My friend got a "phone call" 15 minutes into it and never came back. We NEVER discussed TWI again. Probably thought I was a total loon. Actually, I probably was for staying in as long as I did.

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JT