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The ninth through eleventh grade comprehension llevels seem to be a step lower than his last epistle..

sowie.. I see the context was recruiting kids for the sat thingy. Next time jl.. please don't give me such a long epistle.. I mean, reallly.. half way through the thing, I was so bored to tears, I had no idea what I'm reading..

sounds like he has given up on the adults..

wouldn't be the first time still.. who are these kids he seems to be recruiting for hours on end every day on the phone? just curious..

Now that might be a legitimate reason to make a call. It seems though.. wouldn't it TROUBLING to a parent to have a telemarketer target their underage child? Seems he would have to recruit in a non-threatening and minimally obnoxious manner.. but to recruit to build a church? target kids? whats with that? Unless he considers "kids" to be under forty..

There are only a few possibilities I can think of.. maybe they are "kids" from ces.. "hi. I'm jl. I am offering a unique(?) hopefully non-boring alternative to stiffi.." or did he just pick up the phone book.. start calling. "hi. I'm j.l. do you have any kids? Oh. how nice.. and how old.. can I talk to them for a minute?" or.. is he bothering kids who took his sat prep thingy? the last two alternatives would be rather "creepy" at least to me.. But if he is that busy.. sooooooo much time on the phone trying to "recruit".. I would say there have been HUNDREDS of phone calls, and hundreds more to come.. then again, maybe he is exaggerating..

why recruit "kids"? A few questions.. who are these "kids"? "Recruiting" would seem to me the jl initiated the call.. what happened to his stance about "if love, care and worship da *word* *I* represent, along with the ground I walk on, call ME.." could it be.. he didn't get any calls? I didn't give him any of my kids phone numbers.. or their friends.. where did he get the phone numbers? I really don't think people around here are exactly busy emailing him their kids and neighbors kids phone numbers.. so who is he calling?

The Pied Piper allusion in previous threads seems to have been very appropriate..

I dunno. He could have made the letter much shorter and come to the point. Why does one need such a long epistle for THAT?

Roy is more than cool in my book as well..

I'm curious.. are you having any kind of ceremony? any "holy" "cough" somebody presiding over your agreement.?

for "the record".. the message is written in stone, so to speak. If you don't choose to come to my domain, of "undisclosed persons", though I am hardly anonymous.. blood is on your head..

I'd quote a few modern prophets, but likely you wouldn't give them much credence either..

I don't quote the bible often anymore.. John L.- Jeremiah 45 Take it or leave it, friend..

too bad we don't have very many modern day "examples".. at least in the boastful land of da prevailing word.. or offshoots. what do we really have to imitate.. they all moved on.. got a life.. and I mean.. that's not bad. Sometimes all one can do is make a small, very small difference.. its better than nothing.. jl comes to mind. What real difference has he made.. maybe.. with his sat preparation thingy.. he got a few kids into a better college.. or at least got them better prepared. if I were he.. I would put 99.7 percent of my effort into this.. but he chooses less than the tithe.. starts another damned *ministry*.. well, it's my opinion.. I wish he'd read or consider.. why doesn't he just "move on"..

Are there people who STILL buy his form of "nuttiness"? I have enough of my own.. and it is not for sale. and I really don't need any more.. It just seems.. some have followed him from one form of drama, to another.. what's the big attraction? I'd really like to know.. human behavior is fascinating..

I really wish it would.. people here have tried pleading, loving admonition.. perhaps the worst sarcasm is the "end of the line" for jl.. I actually respect jl for what he has done, not with herr victer's "word".. the SAT preparation endeavour.. Apparently he hasn't responded to "positive criticism" either. Like I said before.. it's my opinion.. but if he won't listen to reason.. I mean, he's had "normal" people try to intelligently discuss issues with him.. what's left? I saw a computer game once. It was a tournament golf game.. you choose your character.. so if you were a "duffer".. missed five shots on the green.. the crowd would start laughing at you.. in a "biblical" sense, isn't that what he's turned out to be? A "biblical" "duffer"? same for the rest of the clowns at ces.. they've missed the mark, for how many years now? Maybe it's bad and all.. but it's barely worth a laugh.. sorry.

maybe a new name for JL's organization.. "Snakessss 'R' Us..." just have to get the "ssssss" right..

I really think, it is as correct, as we are going to get.. No, he was not a "doctor". not by any conceivable stretch of the imagination..

I just emailed *these people*.. princeton theological seminary et al.. let's see what they have to say.. Their site seemed "kinda weird".. they offer masters and doctorate programs.. for whatever.. seems no introductory programs.. no math or english proficiency.. we'll see I guess.. which is vewy, vewy interesting. An internet search only will find the name of *mr ellis* accompanied with the name of herr victser.. so how "well known" was this character? Just wonder..

just in case you don't "get it".. this is where the Squirrel wants the money to go: http://nwoarc.info/ make it about 200K.. that'll pretty much make everything financially even.. well, its the closest group I could find. Shouldn't be too hard to find the address.. and don't send these guys questions about the bible. I'm sure they won't know what the hell you are talking about..

V*%$.. make sure you pass this billing through the proper channels..

Thinking about the 'settlement".. no amount of money could rectify (in my opinion) what da way did to the a**%ns.. about three quarter of a million might rectify at least financially what involvement cost me. and that's just financially.. I had a lot of other life issues stolen from me.. I can't exactly claim it was, or was not the fault of da *ministry*.. but they sure didn't really help me in that regard.. oh well. So rosie, gang, et al.. just send a check. To The Squirrel, New Knoxville, Ohio. They will know where to send it, I'm sure. Along with any questions, regarding the bible, life, etc. You know the drill. So.. where you couldn't supply the answers, we'll call it "even". OK?

as far as rosie taking charge.. I think it's like the pigs learned how to walk.. I know its a fairy tale and all, but.. by all accounts here, she seems to be more oppressive than those who came before her..

V*^#e.. you are a M O R O N.. christ.. well, maybe rosie could make some arrangements for you.. oh, sorry. there aren't very many nice looking corps grads around.. hmm. We'll have to rethink this..