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yep.. but apparently not those who run and back an almost guaranteed repeat of history.. maybe they're just old and senile.. all they can remember is how good the food was back then..

but maybe you're right. "Disgusting", "Opportunistic", "Sick", "Twisted".. might be more apt description.. they've gone *almost* as far as putting up a shrine with some of the remnants of "st" vic's remains.. so maybe it's only *almost* morbid.. in "christian" terms, I would say they are dealing with familiar spirits.. I think "misguided" is a little tame description.. they've started this thing with rotten motives te begin with.. rotten to the core. It might look "Christian" and all.. but it houses a dead man's bones.. figuratively. Maybe morbid does apply.. who knows..

I dunno.. to dress a kid up as a dead lecher.. and seek another set of fawning followers, smells the same to me. really, really sick..

hmm.. well, what's wrong with dancing in a furious frenzy? I think what's more morbid is putting up little shrines to her vicster, resurrecting his programs and teachings, fondly referring to him as der manogawd.. with full knowledge, or wilful blindness of his true character.. Or naming one's offspring after him. Subsequently resurrecting an abusive system with no checks or balances and putting said offspring on top of the organization, having said offspring abandon a real "calling" of sorts.. Give him a shortcut to power and irresistible worship and fawning, when he should be in grad school., acquiring a few professional connections and training. Morbid.. willing to sacrifice your own offspring to a false illusion of what vic really was.. God have mercy on your soul..

I really wonder where loy found these guys.. the limb guy would believe the moon was made of green cheese, at the loyster's assertion.. I still think they had a secret ceremony for induction into leadership, towards the middle of loy's reign.. where the inductees were required to swallow a prescribed quantity of turpentine, or huff the right kind of glue.. some of the ex-way ex-leadership around here were just lucky enough to be absent that day..

Don't go to hard on Bolshevik. I think his exposure to "commited believers" were the likes of loy, rosie and donna, and let's not forget linder. Maybe that's enough to make one think they are all of sub-standard intellectual ability.. If the "leadership" at headquarters was anything like my last limb coordinator.. this guy.. his claim to fame was he knew enough to not eat bread and vegetables at the same meal.. it's true..

I whole-heartedly agree.. I think there are at least a half a dozen good reasons the creator gave women a brain.. and a few human instincts..

Close.. but I think loy's forehead appears a little more like that of a Neanderthal Plus his lips are a lot bigger.. sorry, I hope this discussion wasn't entirely serious..

Perhaps the inference is that twi overpaid. Far, far over paid.. They got fixer uppers for a pretty hefty price tag.. free labor though, for the most part..

I thought so!!! That's what I was thinking.. the mooning is pretty subtle, compared to the raw presentation of the other scenes you refer to..

It might be as simple as Leonardo adding something "cutsie" in the scene.. Didn't Mstar add a few harmless diversions in some of his stained glass works? just a thought..

Thanks.. well, it was rather depressing.. I mean.. all in root was a couple of startup log files.. what in the friggin world does anybody want to "protect" that from little old me.. Learning dos was fun. This is weird.. weird, but still a little bit fun..

Perhaps the biggest con.. the huckster was able to convince us (or a lot of us) that it was "revelation" to go wow, corps, give a significant portion of one's income to a half-baked scheme that really didn't need the money.. that (in at least some cases) it was gawd's will to abandon friends and family.. I think everybody has to trust somebody..

cd ../ cd root and I get: Permission denied. Any other directory I can view the files. Shouldn't I be able to log in as a super user or something?

I'm glad you enjoyed it.. I think anyway.. at least it is certainly colourful..

but where does one choose.. The problem is.. with the dissolution of deity.. we've got a whole army of committees to bargain with... I don't know which is worse..

Yes, from what I've read.. it might just be fiction.. I probably will never find the reference.. but a part of "God" had to die for this universe to come into being.. not unlike the Christian doctrine of redemption.. something perfect had to die to atone for whatever it is.. the coming age, eternal life..

Ya.. but it cost Him.. lots.. Jewish mysticism.. the way I read it.. it cost him the same kind of sacrifice, not unlike the costs of redemption"..

No.. I think he's everywhere.. wasn't an option before..

The fourth doctor broke the core of the key to time when the tardis was in the vortex.. scattering the key throughout time and space.. I'd like to meet some of the writers..

I watched a lot of Doctor Who.. It was a "power".. to great for a being to possess.. Did you follow the key to time subseries? "It" ended ip being scattered through time.. Yeah, I know it's fiction.. but sometimes its the best we have..

I think.. most of us can remember the separation from the "perfection" or whatever one might call it.. it was like death.. jumping into a vortex, not knowing where one might emerge.. well.. these are a few impressions I had when I was very young.. might be nothing to it..

Oh no. It didn't.. at the time.. if one can call it that..

I tend to agree with some "mysticism".. In the beginning, there was one God.. or Deity. And it was boring. Everything was perfect.. what do we (I) do today.. I'll check with the weatherman (me).. well, weather is perfect today.. hmm. what now.. I think it was that way for a long, long time.. Then came the big bang..