cman

disease - An abnormal condition of the body or mind that causes discomfort or dysfunction

alcoholism affects and is in the body and mind

the ignorance of this disease has caused many to continue downward

i'm here to tell you that there is hope

the cure is in the power that is already in you

the will to stop

to bring this out takes a will to see and learn

and to stop being ignorant

mainly honesty with yourself

and others

there is no pill to take

science has not solved the problem

my family and peace in my mind is more important then the bottle

if i pick it up again i won't put it down

it is a disease

you did not hear pond

past the point of no return

it's real and a disease and only one way to stop it

is to stop-period

certain people for whatever reason are alcoholics

the reasons are becoming cleare

and the help is even clearer and works

thanks psalm 71,

the good that is within is meant to come out

aa is one means of making that happen

there are more

thanks for your prayers

staying sober forever

love clay

excathedra,

check your e-mail and pm

one person asked about prayer and meditation

i got to contribute a little

i hope i helped

the other questions and ANSWERS are helping me

you can give someone the answer

but they really already have it

it just brings it to the surface

that person can acknowledge or not

do or not do

no one can force that person

that person must do it themselves

hi ex,

this shows me that he didn't do the program

didn't do the steps

and no aa doesn't turn out non alcoholic clones

everyone is different

what one does with it doesn't mean another will do the same

sure you can go and not change

it's not a magic pill

and great for you waterbuffalo

i'm proud of you

whatever problems you have

will still be there after drinking

perhaps even worse

if there's nothing you can do about your problems today

then do something about what you can do

there will be more days to solve problems

little by little sometimes

but you can't think with alcohol in your mind

clear thinking

clearer solutions

that's part of it bow

one day at a time

don't let yourself get hungry

eat

don't eat too much though..lol

then there's another problem

feeling lonely?

call someone

go shopping

do what it takes to not be lonely

except drink

feeling sorry for yourself?

look at what you do have

not at what you don't

friggin tv has people drinking all the time

it should be against the law

the thought to have one

and that you can handle it will come

it's only a thought

don't let it grow to action

kick it out

nothing wrong with the thought

they will happen

it's what you decide

stay in control

call your sponser

i have a few numbers people gave me

without asking

they know

yes alcohol is legal

but lethal

more then cigs

thank you bowtwi

tears are in my eyes

it will always be the decision to not take that first drink

always cause that's the way it is

like i said it's past the point of no return

no return to even one drink or nyquil cold medicine

or anything with alcohol

btw-there is no charge to go to aa

it is funded solely by donations

and if you think it's another twi

then you haven't been there yet

There comes a time in some people's lives that alcohol is no longer under control. These people cannot have just one drink or beer and be done with it. It has gone past the point of no return. To the point that one drinks until the bottle can't be lifted anymore.

These are people from all walks of life. I saw it.

Alcohol has now taken over and common sense or any sense of doing right is clouded and at the worst hurtful and dangerous.

There is nothing wrong with the person except it is a disease. Once considered incurable by leading Doctors and Psychiatrists.

But there is hope and no one can do it for you.You must decide that yes I have a problem. I am an alcoholic. I can't overcome it without help.

The help in the past was to lock you away in prison or a sanitarium. Unless you are still hiding it well.

There is help today, but you must want it and admit that the power of alcohol has overtaken your power to stop drinking. Your life is unmanageable if you can't mange to stop at one drink.

There is more then the twelve suggestions. Lots more in print to help.

But you must want it and want to see your life start going back up instead of down.

There were people from all walks of life.

From the homeless to executives.

People who looked in the mirror and got tired of what they saw,

and as they saw it getting worse.

There is no religious requirements and God is not taught.

We pray at the end-The Lords Prayer.

We want his will in our lives ON EARTH as it is IN HEAVEN.

I cannot and will not post from the book they gave me. Because you have to go there and see and get help. Besides the copyright thing probably.

But I can speak my mind. No one has a copyright on that.

From restless, irritable and discontented to happy joyous and free in 12 simple steps.

See you on the road of happy destiny.

Seth

Is that what I said Seth, No.

You said that. You don't know cause you don't ask or listen.

There is no magic formula.

I have NEVER SEEN so much HONESTY and CARE

in one room in my life.

And it ain't the sobbing but straight from the heart.

No wonder Wierwille hated it, he feared it.

I'll post more as I see fit.

The 12 Suggested Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous

We admitted we were powerless over alcohol--that our lives had become unmanageable.

Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

cool!

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner bowtwi.

Been busy with personal stuff, but,

thanks for the input!-

a half truth is not truth it's a lie

and yes i see what you are driving at

for me the only good was that i read the bible

God put it together for me

and continues to do so

cause you can't live on yesterday's manna

I also believe 'it' operates in us.

We do not operate it.

For it is God that worketh in you.....

NOT the other way around.

9 what?

and what happened to thinking one thought at a time?

o i guess u mean manifestation(s)

so you can

sit

interpret

prophesy

word of wisdom

word of knowledge

discern spirit(s)

faith

miracles

gifts of healing

all the time...hmmm

agree with the list but not the implementation

as per twi

doubt seriously if very many experienced

the intensity it takes to see them happen

intensity or single mindedness

or actually being to the point that these function

and being that there would be a situation calling for 'it'

and you might notice that you left out other great gifts as well

by the way...welcome to GreaseSpotCafe

While within the spiritual family of God there are people there from all man made churches and while I man still visit man made churches I know who I am in Christ.

which is free and not limited to any man made church,

The churches are within.

Wondering what people use their computer for.

Personally I have a few forums I frequent.

Of course Greasespot too.

But what is it really doing for us?

My sons play games on line and get more out of them then me.

Personally I play chess on line at gameknot.com.

So kind of an inquire of ideas.

By the way, got tired of dancing,

now I'm cman, simple to the point.

That which is least.

Love clay.