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Maybe it doesn't count, what happens in the heart of a man or woman, to many I suppose that is the case. Not to me. Cause it's very real, more real than any ancient texts or artifacts.

if you made up your mind already, why ask the question most people have decided, until .....

so.....the story of moby dick makes more sense as well as many more stories

Based on the evidence we have, can anyone with certainly say Jesus really existed about 2,000 years ago? While incontrovertible proof may be impossible to come by, those who study the period believe there was someone named Jesus Christ living in the area and time period that we generally agree on, said archaeologist Eric Meyers, emeritus professor in Judaic studies at Duke University. “I don’t know any mainstream scholar who doubts the historicity of Jesus,” said Meyers.”The details have been debated for centuries, but no one who is serious doubts that he’s a historical figure.”

I was talking about you? hmmmmm interesting historical record of Jesus Christ includes lots of stories.....

if you happen to see yourself in a mirror, don't blame the mirror

Apparently not....

evidence? It's bigger than you, bigger than me. And you will get the evidence, that much is certain, nothing but love for you.

just the facts huh? the very reason for chasing your white whale, he hurt you? it's impossible to kill it off, as in moby dick it will end you, fortunately there is things bigger than you that will come in to play, and save you

no thanks

exactly you don't know do you but you chase it, to destroy it, just like the white whale

the ugly side of human nature "accepted orthodoxies" has nothing to do with it

I can imagine how badly talked about Paul was in his day.

or you can rely on thought, yours or someone else that's good, just test it against your spirit

yes

which is easier or harder, proving something doesn't exist or proving it does exist there is only one thing that can prove anything, the spirit

I doubt your conclusions Raf, though I respect your right to voice them.

Good summary Mark. Comparing what happened to twi to the first century is foolish I believe.

proof of a man that was murdered and his disciples persecuted for many years by the powers of that time, not likely there is one witness that is undeniably sound though, Paul speaks of it constantly in his letters

good question, and pretty deep, whatever happens is going to happen, that much is certain

The rcs are rich in history. Though I don't like the excommunication deal. I might have been an rc or Jewish had I been raised differently.

yeah...so....hey the fire is real just as real as water. purgatory? anyway it comes it's coming or has or is happening now In the fires of hell is the same fire of heaven

nice script on the water and fire baptism sirguessalot tried so hard for so many years with books and books running out of my ears, like cleaning the outside of the pitcher, while inside is a fuse waiting to be lit, tried it my way then I started listening anyways, always cool to converse with everyone here, open hearts

purity purify pure yeah, fire does that? possibly the fire of god is a bit different then like you know, a bic lighter or something..... where's Ham when we need him!

Thinking of purgatory, looking at different uses of flame, lake of fire, burning bush, flaming sword, and all that is very interesting, I think there is some fire involved big time in god almighty