cman

lol.. good one chockfull...lol

questions you should already know the answers to, the graduating class at where I work-every year a new class- not one of them, none, zero want to repeat grade school again I've been called Christian and many things, serpent is the one I prefer

no, more east than that, and north it don't matter to me to be the center of your hatred, the white whale things will change soon enough

you totally missed the point of the scripture I quoted it certainly wasn't about that garbage you just said

don't want it in this discussion, yet it is very relevant certainly it can't be 'proved' who wrote what, with limited resources

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life King James Version what is john talking about......the word of life is not scripture in a book

Maybe it doesn't count, what happens in the heart of a man or woman, to many I suppose that is the case. Not to me. Cause it's very real, more real than any ancient texts or artifacts.

if you made up your mind already, why ask the question most people have decided, until .....

so.....the story of moby dick makes more sense as well as many more stories

Based on the evidence we have, can anyone with certainly say Jesus really existed about 2,000 years ago? While incontrovertible proof may be impossible to come by, those who study the period believe there was someone named Jesus Christ living in the area and time period that we generally agree on, said archaeologist Eric Meyers, emeritus professor in Judaic studies at Duke University. “I don’t know any mainstream scholar who doubts the historicity of Jesus,” said Meyers.”The details have been debated for centuries, but no one who is serious doubts that he’s a historical figure.”

I was talking about you? hmmmmm interesting historical record of Jesus Christ includes lots of stories.....

if you happen to see yourself in a mirror, don't blame the mirror

Apparently not....

evidence? It's bigger than you, bigger than me. And you will get the evidence, that much is certain, nothing but love for you.

just the facts huh? the very reason for chasing your white whale, he hurt you? it's impossible to kill it off, as in moby dick it will end you, fortunately there is things bigger than you that will come in to play, and save you

no thanks

exactly you don't know do you but you chase it, to destroy it, just like the white whale

the ugly side of human nature "accepted orthodoxies" has nothing to do with it

I can imagine how badly talked about Paul was in his day.

or you can rely on thought, yours or someone else that's good, just test it against your spirit

yes

which is easier or harder, proving something doesn't exist or proving it does exist there is only one thing that can prove anything, the spirit

I doubt your conclusions Raf, though I respect your right to voice them.

Good summary Mark. Comparing what happened to twi to the first century is foolish I believe.

proof of a man that was murdered and his disciples persecuted for many years by the powers of that time, not likely there is one witness that is undeniably sound though, Paul speaks of it constantly in his letters