cman

figures of speech in many languages offer vast amounts of information in a lot less words I tend to take it in as is and let it grow if there is life in those ideas, no matter the source or perceived to be revelation or not

other things come into play with script of any origin, figures of speech are just part of the narrative, not the whole thing that is being communicated just looking at any person writing or talking there is a lot we register to understand without having to break everything down to parts of speech, a lot of automatic understanding is already present

don't know which I am most of the time, both I'm sure saw your edit in the 1st post, modcat, no problems, these things work themselves out

how is this not about the idiom of permission? god allowed the tree of life to be eaten but did not allow the tree of knowledge of good and evil to be eaten it don't matter I suppose, people see things differently and can't see some things differently,

it's an experience that is useful, I think ... --- If it's not taken too personally, you know anyways, it's an internal fight with yourself that someone brings out in you.... a good thing to bring out...most of the time....

trying to adjust, not easy when things have been so screwy for so long, like seeing a bigger picture than such a narrow minded up-bringing, however, even that is turning to favor, balancing it all, emotions logic realities, besides seeing more

it seems all these events in matt 24 happen every day while some look to the future others see it happening now

there's more than one way to cut the pie, the true ninja slicer can use two knives why does the flaming sword protecting the tree of life turn Every way? not just one way

cause it seems we ended up with the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and the tree of life From Modcat5: Apologies to CMan for commandeering this post. I cannot see a way to send it back or delete it, so I'm stuck with a bad decision. Nonetheless, this thread was intended to get the Idioms of Permission thread back on topic. Thanks to all for your patience and understanding. Modcat5.

clearly redemption is in the hand of Christ what is called God, what is it really

Boston now....... Peace of Mind

Have good old classic rock playing load right now Ted Nugent

I think there is always something to look forward to, but I look back too, can't help it I guess. Yeah a lot of crazy stuff out here. Some people need to take a nap or something lol

there's something deep inside that keeps me going. It came out once big time bigger than I could handle I think. I'm not alone in this that much I'm sure of. Deep inside that is connected to everything, more than I could come up with on my own. So, inside yeah but more than that. We are more than just ourselves.

it's more like a figure of speech deal

Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: like these secret things, obviously speaking about something, vp totally missed it I think

I think the saying - greatest secret in the world - is not something vp came up with.

I agree, Rocky, so if it is a secret than I think it's just the nature of the beast.....

Is not Pfal. Or the Bible. Maybe what all those people in the Bible are talking about is a secret to us reading it. Just thinking out loud. What do you think about this?

This makes the most sense out of everything in this thread. I like it!

it has to be seen, experienced to believe it, yes from the inside but also bigger than that even forgiveness is so big that it's hard to comprehend, or put into words

Christ is not something separated from us.

It's a complete deal. Why fight it? You can, if you want to drive yourself nuts.

I don't think it's a mind game, maybe before the actual experience of being forgiven. Christ forgiving is without anything left behind without remorse or second thoughts.

there is power in forgiveness, super powerful healing from within Jesus said the man's sins were forgiven and healed him 2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. 3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. 4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts? 5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? 6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. 7 And he arose, and departed to his house. 8 But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men. Ephesians chapter one plus much more..... 46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment. 47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little. 48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.