Bolshevik

I'm envisioning this guy Wierwille, copying this thing and that thing one after another . . . a kleptomaniac starved for the next Xerox, . . . a void that can't be filled. The immorality and legality seem to pale in comparison to the uncontrollable compulsion. He copied not once, not twice . . . so much so that this pervasive pattern of behavior points to a possible mental illness. He could not stop. People like this it's a matter of time before others see there's no actual person beneath the veneer, and move away, only repeating the cycle of this starved individual. The reason he plagiarized was to bring people near him. His plagiarism is a reason people moved away from him.

Putting what together? I could copy a bunch of text from internet sources right now, put it all in one post, claim credit . . . that doesn't make it coherent. "Putting it all together" assumes something was put together without having to state what it is. (edited to add Lomax when off on this on me once pounding his desk "put it all together". . . don't know why . . . wasn't the topic of discussion)

VPW was hard to listen to, impossible to read, and he had a very punchable face. Charismatic he was not. I attribute his "success" to the drug culture of the 60s.

3 part being . . . that is an ancient idea . . . Gnosticism, right? Becoming a god, Word-Faith? Ancient idea Mike keeps discussing how to read The Bible through the copied works of VPW, VPW copied ancient ideas. TWI didn't invent rose colored glasses. Ancient idea. . . . Reading the Bible beyond the text . . .

If a person is following TWI, they are consenting to the idea of "Resetting Christianity" . . . starting from scratch. Dismissing all of history. Dismissing all the noise and claiming to see clearly. VPW and TWI just sort of began and nothing went before? I think you've pointed out Word Faith as something that came before. There's a long history there. Maybe centuries. Maybe millennia.

We can argue with them about VPW or we can find where they fit in a much larger demographic.

This interesting. We know nobody but them is allowed to apply that. So they are lying. We know that much. Oldes posted a link about Catholic leaders claiming authority over interpretation. Sounds similar? But at least the Roman Catholics just say exactly what they mean on that topic . . . it sounds to me. Scripture is not an conscious entity that it can literally explain itself. So what does "scripture interprets itself" mean? There's a writer. There's a reader. . . . someone else could read and orate to a listener. You could write about the writing and a reader could read about what's written. "scripture interprets itself" - does this ignore general consensus among a population about what it means? Does scripture exist independent of people?

Yes. In this thread that is assumed. 99% of the population knows that. VPW may have set his trap, being such a dunce, what hooks did he pass on that he was unaware of?

Hmm. You know, TWI claims to focus on the Bible. We know that's BS. It's a red herrings for their own Rosie fox glasses. So the snow on the gas pumps, It's a claim to reset Christianity. It's tabula rasa, blank slate thinking. Blank slate comes up in other philosophy, I think.

Well Genesis says be fruitful and multiply. That could mean anything. VPW has been dead for an eternity. He may have posed as a leader, his malleable nature means he was influenced by greater forces.

One of the concerns with ChapGPT and AI generated images is the competition OnlyFans will receive. Online prostitutes will lose their income to robots. Nobody is actually touching each other. And if the other isn't even a biological being, what evil is there? How will women make a living though? Will our taxes increase now? Transmaxing is also a word. People are changing their gender simply for a better opportunities. Nearly half of kids live in single parent homes because that's what's profitable. The population implosions that are taking place are because nobody is touching each other. The government of Denmark started a campaign with commercials begging folks to get it on. They need more babies. Is that evil? And how is it wrong to touch a woman if woman can't be defined? Gender is a made up construct, right? Orgies don't sound so shocking. At least it involves more than one person in the same room. And Jim Doop did not do the right thing and show VPW the door at the first red flag. His senses are questionable, if it was shocking, why was no action taken? Wasn't this the 60s? There was a revolution taking place. So I don't think that Mr d00p was very firm on his views in that story. VPW warned Jim of VPW's intent. This idea that the reader knows the writing better than the writer, is apparently centuries old. Did VPW study hermeneutics?

VPW trying to codify forced meaning is not new. So this practice is bigger than him.

Unlike Schleiermacher, Schlegel emphasizes that works typically contain confusions that the interpreter needs not only to identify but also to explain:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/schleiermacher/#HermIeTheoInte This guy, if I read it right, argues you need to understand linguistics (the language it was written in) and the psychology of the author to interpret The Bible.

Oldies posted an article about the Catholic Church claiming authority on the Bible's interpretation. Martin Luther famously said "sola scriptura" . . . Which removes Catholic authority and tradition and corruption. VPW needed snow on the gas pumps. People apparently bought that. Which sounds insane. But obviously, there's a void in how to read the Bible.

Mike is able to talk to Paul by reading The Bible. This is getting behind the text. Knowing the mind of the writer.

I don't know. Scripture interprets itself. That is subjective?

Right, he would have thought his idea and strategy was original. As a plagiarist, he would have not understood what he was doing. The ability to think around the text without reading the text itself.

I think VPW wanted to distort reality. The Bible is often looked at as objective truth. Unless it is argued it is a subjective truth. Then there's no one truth or even consistency. Reality itself is not. Whereas VPW being the main interpretor means there's possibility for consistency. Problem is he didn't write the book. So he needs to negate the writers.

Death of the Author

I think this somewhat came up somewhere by someone. You need revelation to write The Word and interpret The Word, right? Couldn't one person's Revy be stronger? I also think there's a philosophical idea behind this . . But I don't know yet

This video is only for people who have time. Dr Lindsay is usually, I find, hard to follow but this is in simple terms. He's talking about cults. He talks about a lot of things. I think a lot of it sounds familiar to everyone. (Please no politics)

So one is kept in a cult through fear tactics. But the cult teaches to have no fear. I'm not touching you . . .I'm not touching you . . . I'm not conditioning you. ..

And since no man knoweth the day or the hour, which man o Gawd knoweth not? For how can one be a man o Gawd, unless the man o Gawd knoweth? For in the knowing that he knows the not knowing is known. This full circle is throughout time, and days, and hours.

T-Bone uses hyperlinks and you know, references. Others hyperventilate the words according usage.