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Let me get this straight REALLY BUGGED RIGHT NOW Are GSC members now being subjected to "reproof", of sorts, by other members, for having had positive (twi) experiences ? Should we be guilt- ridden because we liked something about it? had a laugh? learned something? If something in TWI blessed someone , are they "Less" in here because their posts are not as bloody and horrific? THIS IS MADNESS CONSTANT NEGATIVITY BUILDS NOTHING GOOD I know this is NOT the "Here's why I loved TWI ..." website. I get that...but If a guy had an awesome time at LEAD...( or any other TWI class, event, teaching, etc.) Can't you guys just let him/her have that ? Can relaying ANY positive be so wrong? Does any positive post HAVE to be taken apart line by line?? Casually trying to ensure that EVERY post in here is negative seems a little "cultish" to me. Not to mention... a real downer. for example: I know you thought _____ was positive, but REALLY it was negative. It was bad. Bad things happened. You really had no business enjoying yourself and should ,probably, feel badly for doing so. strangely familiar to anyone else ??? Don't have your own thoughts or feelings. God forbid,you were ever blessed. I too, had a freakin' AWESOME LEAD. no apologies!

Jeez Rhino see if I ever agree with you again hahahahah kidding

thanks dmiller To me, it seemed like a ridiculous comparison,simlie,metaphor,analogy to make. Figurative,literal or otherwise. Beyond belief. So many lies or things that smell like lies have been told by our old "leaders". I just didn't want it to sound like it was comming from OUR side too. I realize the vast differences of experiences we all had. I meant to diminish none of them. I didn't intend to bring out the "villagers with torches" in anyone. Especially when they're marching in MY direction. Being credible. making sound,realistic points that the listener can easily relate to is hard-wired into my brain.Especially when it relates to the telling of ones way experiences to others . Perhaps I am too literal. thanks again dmiller fourth grade grammar ?? c'mon CHECK PLEASE !!

Did this portion of my post NOT show up or something ? :huh:

OMG SUDA!! you made me hungry! hee hee THANKS

THIS is what I was agreeing with. Using figures of speech. sure. Great enhancements to comparisons or a point being made. I do,however, believe that comparisons should be; credible. realistic. within the bounds of the point being made. not so blown out of porportion that the original comparison is lost or rendered ridiculous. VPW/Hitler ???...sort of... apples/minivans. not CREDIBLE comparisons. VPW and Hitler... both great public speakers...both widely thought of as evil men ... but c'mon. internet postings are WIDE open and ,pretty much, can live on forever. credibility is a must. I understand that this site is HEAVILY visited,scrutinized,and often "cut & pasted". All the more reason for those posting here not to come off as,well, something LESS than they really are. Especially when we're discussing PEOPLE. I believe us to be credible men and women.(from most of what i've seen) NOT some lunatic fringe group. Let's not "come off" like that.

Thanks Doreen. I'm new here myself. Welcome. This site can be quite interesting. Sometimes it's sorta like a roller coaster ride. It's fun but now and again your stomach wants to fly out of your nose. Thanks also LIKEANEAGLE. Glad I'm not alone in some of my sentiments. I appreciate your postings.

HERE HERE Rhino!! As bad as things got ( and yes they did get VERY bad) I have yet to hear of gas chambers at any of the campuses OR of anyone LITERALLY being eaten not to minimize anything that really did happen BUT I think we need to make realistic comparisons to remain credible

WARNING: THIS IS A POSITIVE POST I got out in the early 80's. I didn't want to leave,at that time. I had no choice. (another thread perhaps) I had no Idea what a blessing that would turn out to be. The majority of my experience was wonderful. I was young. This was a real foundation ,for many areas of life, for me. I learned the truth ( all the really bad stuff ) long after I got out. This post is NOT about vpw , LCM, or any other single person. It's about what I learned. Am I grateful? YOU BETCHA ! I can feel the hairs raising on the back of some of your necks. Just stop for a minute. I am no cheeleader for what TWI turned into. I'm not a defender,or a sympathizer. I know well some of the stories. But... Even if some of these people later turned out to be the anti-christ. They changed my life, yes even ,saved my life. HOW COULD I NOT BE THANKFUL FOR THAT? If your grammar school teacher, the one who taught you to read, is convicted of really horrible crimes later in life. That's aweful. TREULY. The teacher is aweful. Worthy of severe punishment. BUT YOU STILL KNOW HOW TO READ. You obviously no longer love that teacher. He can rot in hell for all you care. But You're glad you can read, all about it, in the newspaper. The fact remains. You were taught something VALUABLE. thanks FOR THE LEARNING Monkeys could have taught me the word, I wouldn't have cared. THE TEACHER IS NOT MY POINT, IT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER I CHERISH I remain thankful for many things I learned in PFAL and throuout my time in "the Ministry" I had never before had, what I would call ,a real RELATIONSHIP with God. Or the types of relationships I had with lots of magnificent folks. The VAST majority of "rank and file " believers were like no other people on earth. THE most warm,loving,giving ,caring people I had ever met. A "ready friend" no matter where you roamed. where to start??? speaking in tongues. tools to read and study FOR MYSELF. it's not by works. I cannot get "unsaved" I am a SON. work ethic. (serves me to this day) even if you are the "low man on the totum pole" at your work BE THE BEST LOW MAN THEY EVER HAD !! fearlessness. "I can do all things through Christ..." kindness compassion NOBODY can come between you and GOD. self esteem ( ok that one got wacked later) temporarily. I am never,EVER alone. CHRIST in YOU never heard that before. The unbridled excitment of the approaching ROA. The adventure of going WOW,corps,lead. I often felt like "Gulliver" with all my travels. Really there's a "bigillion" things I'm thankful for and I credit them to (early) teaching etc. I got "you know where". Comming here is hard for me, at times. I mentioned once before that hearing all this, for me, is a lil like finding out you're adopted. You loved your adoptive parents. They raised you. You feel like they did the best they could for you. You thought they were your real parents. After you moved out you find out they were not at all your real parents. They were child molesters, swindlers,criminals or something like that. All 'round scary folks. But you loved them when you lived with them. You knew no better. Quite the sad, bewildering news. who?...what ?... huh?... You're kidding me right ? Then there's... proof. OUCH! If nothing else...the bible was opened up for me in twi. Like never before. The "regular" people I knew in my way days really were "the salt of the earth" People who really wanted the best for themselves,their family,and well, everyone they met. I do believe it was a very strong FOUNDATION upon which to build. How the minstry I loved so much turned into such an evil,regimented, heartless cesspool is WAY(no pun) beyond me. Thank God I was taught to "Take the best and leave the rest". Sad that some of the "leaving" includes your memories of people you once thought to be among the most awesome on this earth. I know you guys can relate. we live, we learn,we certainly never give up. Just some thoughts

yes it is still have that as well took it to a church once, years ago, and I remember people being ASTONISHED that I actually wrote in my bible. I got the feeling they thought it was quite wrong LOL the notes are as legible as when I first wrote them ( not very) haha I'm just not one to throw out things. Been YEARS since I looked in those boxes.

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Great post Dot My foolhardy behavior relates to Marsha , well some of it anyway. Our previous posts about her were removed ?? I hadn't noticed. why?? Something legal?? I was her WOW brother I lived with her I saw her pain but I believed what I was told "she had some devil spirits" If she could get rid of them she'd be fine ok, right Odd she began to fall apart RIGHT after a visit to the ol' motorcoach It doesn't take a rocket scientist... I'm not a rocket scientist "but I play one on tv" HAHA

I still have EVERYTHING in a couple boxes in the deep recesses of the basement. I even still have a thick, handmade, leather bible cover with the way logo carved into it. It's beautiful really, but ... you know. TOO weird. confessions of a pack-rat

yes "Dead Poets Society" good Job again George hmmm g-girl throwing a shark ?? sounds super-hero "ish" no bells ringing as of yet

Yes it's "Blade Runner" "Knife Jogger' would have been a stupid title LOL Good Job George

more quotes for ya! "sucking all the marrow out of life doesn't mean choking on the bone" (answering phone) "Welton Academy, Hello?...Yes he is, hold on. Mr Nolan, it's for you. (holds up phone) It's God. He says we should have girls at Welton." "Why do we need language?" "To communicate..." "Nooo!! To woo women !" "No matter what anybody tells you, words and ideas can change the world"

yay thanks! I think this is too easy for you guys,we'll see lol

hmmm ok this IS a stretch daniel dan a goat, kid prey dan a kid prey "the naked prey"????

oops sorry it was 1989

ok here goes 1987 "sucking all the marrow out of life doesn't mean choking on the bone" "no matter what anybody tells you,words and ideas can change the world"

"Real Genius" ???

basement of the kitchen worked there my 1st year in residence I remember making 40 BIGILLION cookies for christmas It was a quiet place to go for a quick respite from all the hussle and bussle from the kitchen upstairs thats also where the cookies were stored

medical field here we refer to that as "cranio-rectal inversion" it's an epidemic hee-hee

"Casino Royale" ?

the truest words he ever spoke "I didn't write the book,people"