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Also, it seems at a cursory glance the perhaps Wierwille ripped off some doctrine from them as well.
Jesus not being God (Witnesses say he was Michael in the OT appearing as the son of man, still similar though)
Dead being unconscience until resurrected
Followers of each of these organizations are taught they are to be a separate people
Both groups feel they are the worlds true religion
etc..
Fist Bump! OldSkool!
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all these numbers and all this hype seem so silly now
also sad
It is sad.it is retail and the products were US,it is a buisness and inventory on the Wows ,sure there were a few thousand people,but many people went more than twice on the field,I think that the Rock of Ages every year was the "Black Friday"for The Way Buisness and the 1 year vow was the 1 year guarantee the abs and class money would flow.
Every year it got bigger and bigger and bigger until people began to realize the "product "was not working and they wanted there SOUL back! The the plant of twi shut down the wow thing and called it something else, many times over however the product is still the same and does not work.
There is the one Heart's desire,I want to say,and there are MANY ways of desire,and MANY (((PATHS))) of the Labyrinth where the Hearts desire can be LOST.
Finding the true way is a matter of discerning between hearts desire and "mimetic or competative " desire,between what we truely want and what we (((think)))we want.
The many passageways of the the labyrinth,the BLIND alleys,the DEAD ends,make it difficult to find the way from the interior to the entrance to the center.
The center I will call"the end of desire"and the entrance the "beginning of desire"
IF all desire is mimetic,as then the center has to be a PEACE that comes from renunciation.
If there is heart's desire,as I am saying THEN it is a PEACE that comes of
fullfillment.
(from the book In HIs Image by Paul Brand and Phillip Yancy)
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I knew I never should of tried those candy cigerettes when I was 5.
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I tried the candy Hot Tamales they are almost the same size of a cigerette,they helped some but I just can't seem to stop smoking yet.
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When I was a wow in Idaho in a Mormon College town of Rexburg, I always knew they were a Cult and JW a Cult but ....never could see The Way being a Cult
but that was only my second year in....everytime I would sneak into a Christian bookstore I would go search the Cults section and just could not believe when I saw
pamphlets on The Way International.
The more I went to the Christian bookstore the more I loved it,like a kid in a candy store. I began to open up to other views outside Way Bull Crap)er aka doctrine(?)
Very Mirror like these Cults.
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You Go Girl!
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Glad your here!
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The Way International: The Straight Truth on facebook.
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Nicely done.
I did not do this..but thought we should all see it and pass it on.
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I wonder if anyone's been kicked out yet. It's almost inevitable.
They have been thrown under the bus awaiting to be used as BAIT for more warm bodies.
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that drive by makes me feel so much better now....thanks group
You can drive by all you want and I hope you stick around to find that The Way and Dr, Fat Rats little Cult is throwing people Under The Bus!
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I went Wow 3 times. Do I count as 3 people?
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this one fits slightly. More closely resembles the moneyhands *assignment* to the UK.. gawd have mercy on them..
good choice!
Waiting for the day when everyone wakes up and finds out it was just SPIT UNDER THE MICROSCOPE the entire time in The Way Internationaland to that LIE of VPW searing your brain like a cow being branded for ownership .
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Thanks for sharing your story with us. I thought you offered a powerful analogy using ice. I'm going to go ahead and quote it here for everyone, since I think you illustrate how many of us felt as we tried to recover our spontaneous responses to life while shedding TWI's dogmas.
To some degree, I know I shut down my real, honest, individual responses to life's situations while under the influence of TWI indoctrination. When trying to shed those old TWI dogma-drenched thoughts (like the world was my enemy), I was also trying to regain my identity as I swam to reach the "exit cut in the ice above" as you put it:
You wrote:
"the feeling i felt after years of having left The Way was as if my
mind was under ice. such as to a victim who ice dives and the oxygen
cuts off,like a freak accident,the victim looks for an opening while
struggling to survive,and dependeing on the depth of the dive results
in whether he will make it to the exit cut in te ice above.
Under ice hypothermia can set in very easily if the conditionals are
at the slightest bit altered or tampered with causing the BODY
temperature to slow down but still function enough to survive in a
coma like state.
In this situation the victim may see the opening exit but,not be able
to get their because of hypothernmia."
The Rest of the Story(of Ice Sculptures)
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I looked at that site, the pics, video and thought... oh you poor kids...
Suckers - a new generation falling for the same old thing in a new package.
What makes young VP qualified to run anything? All he does is smile. Well, that's easy to do when you're the King. He's smiling all the way to the bank.
Ya. More like a Buzzard Going in Circles waitng for PREY!
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I don't know about the board, but I've apologized to everyone I could find that I ever influenced to consider or become part of that abusive organization.
-JJ
Me too!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-CYpaN0rWgHere is a clip in the very beginning that triggered it for me. I was 9 years out of The Way and that is when I started to write.
before that it was all locked inside.
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Thanks penworks. People are always asking me to explain or share with them what it was like being in a Cult and getting out. So I just though it would be easier
to just give them a link,and I don't have time either to answer questions,alot of parents wanted to know what happened to there college aged student who had goals
and the joined The Way International.
In 1992 I was watching a movie called Awakenings with Robin Williams and the intro was with Robert Denero getting sick as a little boy,the scene is a a lake and a kid asks What happens when the water freezes do the fish die?
Ofcourse I was thinking (Fish as in fishers of men)and that came about,I had and still do have some PTSD issues,but it used to be so bad like just taking a walk in the woods and seeing leaves gathered on the ground. I would just cry!
Writing became my therapy alone,not wanting to talk or even say the "word" Cult outloud,sitting on the back row at a church trying to unscrable the mess of the bible that The Way twisted. Until it was just too much.
I needed a therapist. That was in 1992. Today it is 2010 and I speak because I know there are those who can't.
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You ought to write this for a living skyrider! Very insightful! People into Sheople! Love it!
I agree!
Once your out of The Way International and all there bondage ,freedom is sweet.
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There is a whole prison system of people that have been forgiven(but not has the victim forgotten)
Red Flags
in About The Way
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