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we did it again!! managed to make it yet another year. Geo and Suzie--Aug 21st Anniversary. 17 years. Celebrating in September but better late than never!! forgot I already posted this in general forums, (brain dead--ooops ) [This message was edited by suz on August 17, 2002 at 17:19.]

You are wonderful, thanks for leading the way in birthdays, WE ALL ARE ON YOUR HEELS. Happy Birthday to you, so much to be thankful for. suz gipgop

Aleya2Fairlie I loved what you see. First of all please stay and contribute. You have great perspective. Just because you were never "IN" means nothing. It was a cult and you have a great first hand knowledge now of cult madness. You were "IN" in a different way without signing on the dotted line. Your understanding of vp and his marketing is brilliant!! There are many here in the cafe' who still think he was something more than just that. So please stay. You have much to offer. And tell the parents that there is still hope for their son. I don't suggest YOU consider any hope for your relationship with him, I won't reiterate what was already posted, but the parents have of course a different hope for the son they lost. Welcome aboard. suzie

I tried calling her brother Kevin (wife Patty) and the number has been changed. They live in FT WAYNE, IN. I can't imagine nobody knowing where these guys are. Tim and Mary were both corpse even!! Please help me. suzie

they were dolls, they were in the corpse with me. When I first came to Waydale I was saddened to see Sam still in Kansas....in more ways than one, quite the "ministry leader" (such a title for such a joke) the kids were Christa, Deborah and Laura. I remember Pat telling me once while in rez that she wished she was still home playing marjhon with her friends. I hope someday they wake up and smell the coffee. I loved them so. suz

Can you believe it?? George and Suzie celebrate 17 looooooooonnnng years of marriage on Aug 21st (anybody who knows Geo would agree, long seems mild ) Did we have a "ministry" wedding??" NO Why?? I'll tell you why.... Geo was NOT corpse (God forbid) and nobody, but nobody would "bless" our marriage. Even got looked down on by local leadership in Everett WA in 85, he was the biggest jerk around too!!(a nice Jewish boy, yeah, nice and creepy) We were told to just live together but-we eloped and somehow, just somehow, we made it, and somehow, yet again, somehow we are still married!! A miracle???? maybeeeeeeeee.... We both forgot our first anniversary, and our second one we shared a bag of chips in the truck at a trappers convention. Romantic, ya sure. Still nuts about each other?, you betcha, he is still the man of my dreams So bite me twi, we made it w/out your help or "blessing". I love you George suz [This message was edited by suz on August 05, 2002 at 11:48.]

Damn how can you remember corpse graduation?? I ONLY remember the year, 1983 you guys are good!!! I might remember me and Geo's wedding anniversary this year...hmmm, sometime in August.....17 LONG years ago...... suz

Still searching for Mary, especially Mary, and Tim. I dearly love this family and don't think they have quite left yet. If anyone knows of them please let me know. Wonderful folks and I miss Mary so much. Love to her mom and the rest of her family if anyone knows how to reach them. suz

aww nevermind, its not your fault you live in Chicago.... but Happy Birthday to you.....so much to be thankful for.... suzie

such a joy to hear about your boy turning 1. can I hold the baby??? So much to be thankful for, suz

big Happy birthday to you too!! sorry I also was late saying happy b day to you but I have been slightly busy... can't wait to get home to rest!!! thanks for your b day greeting!! see ya at the cafe' when I get home, I'll buy the coffee!! love, suz

We got out in 89, I went to work for Microsoft in 90. I realized after being there for many years that the cult microsoft also attracted the young folks that had, stamina and arrogance to ?do the job, whatever it takes?. I constantly found myself calling Microsoft Corporate??Headquaters??..hmmm Found myself volunteering and trying to go the extra mile. It just seemed to be my nature, and It was my nature- but was I like that before my twi days or after, during, ???? But now it was who I was. I remember once someone saying to me (at Microsoft for a project I was heavily involved with) ?You know, this company is going to be successful with or without your input?. I was shocked to think they actually COULD succeed without me! I stayed involved in the ?causes? but relaxed. The more involved in the company and I saw the ?good o?l Boys Club? in full swing, -its not who you know but who you blow- concept. Microsoft had so much Diversity, so much to offer, such a future, what a fellowship, what a joy divine?. I realized it to was cultish. I got less involved with it. I like Grizz?s term, good employee, I honestly thought that?s what I was. I soon got involved with my kids school PTO (ha -we weren?t an Association, WE were and Orginazition?) but realized immediately that the schools were preaching to the choir and ?it just doesn?t matter? was an obvious. The politics involved were (and still are)incredible. I do not believe I was involved to make the organizations cult like, I believe the cult mentality is already established like someone already stated. Heck pta has been around for years. I also don?t believe I was searching for that cozy feeling, sitting through minutes of meetings has NOTHING cozy about it. But I was involved because I believed in something. The Word Cult doesn?t evoke emotion in me like Linda stated, embarrassment maybe, but not emotion . Some of the other terms were part of the cult experience, but the duck quacks?. I also {became a cult Member} the question is when & how? My kids asked me once what a Hippie was, and I said, ?well we did what we wanted, wore blue jeans, long hair and protested?. They said, ?Your still a hippie mom!!? I shared with HopeR that before I went into the corpse someone asked me -- Not to change, Not to come out like the other corpse women?and I promised I wouldn?t. So I am not sure how serious I took the whole shebang. Obviously serious enough to stay involved from 72-89 BUT I kept friends (at home) since childhood, Still did my thing with evil unbelievers, still partied hardy with those -not of the faith-, still did what I wanted. (the hippie in me) But also I still listened when leadership advised me to stay in WI when my mother was sick, didn?t go home when my mother died, didn?t move home when I should have, didn?t didn?t didn?t?..my ideas and beliefs were swayed to the closed society. I didn?t join a spin off group, took me years to even go to church! (but alas I have found a church home for my daughter and me.) Also finances were always a struggle while involved, twi made sure of that for us peons, the upper echelons were taken care of by us worker bees. But also I must admit, Corpse week was the loneliest time of my life. ROA was work, traveling to and from was a burden, sending my kids off was a heartbreak, missing my family was difficult, being poorer than dirt was sad. CULT mentality made sure my believing DID NOT equal receiving?

well its like macronni with a kind of "sauce" on it. I like mine w/parmesan... mmm mmm good

hey Socks I don't agree w/him either!!! eww, thanks but no thanks, but hell, who says I have to?? so glad you agree with your Mrs. Socks..... anyway off I go to the no spelling zone suz

how bout 3434344334

BTW-you cannot post in the construction area. Don't even try it, just say NO to posting there

now: wouldn't it be fun to put in f-7 first....? Quite apprapoe for the sick corpse to be first, 6th and now f-7, suz

socks, I was not refering to any post you might be refering to, I know I can't spell worth crapola, nor do I mind if I can or can't. I just know some folks who are quick to judge, correct, mock, etc at errors. It does make them oh so superior you know. Griz, funny statement, "One can always choose to ignore others, rather than getting drawn in to useless debates, or trying to respond to something that lacks apparent logic or because of previous experience has proven it’s not worth the effort……." Isn't that why the ones who "live" here at the cafe come here?, to get drawn in useless debates weather experience or logic has anything to do with anything??? I spend less and less time in the forums for that very reason!! I have the ability to NOT read those who I choose NOT to read, others seem drawn to debate. Its why they live. Happy Trails

If someone was going for the juggler they would have a post memorized anyway. If someone wanted to correct a spelling error, the anal retentives would already know..... I say no limit cause of the assholes that have nothing better to do then make themselves superior in life. Let them squirm in their self righteousness. (now if I want to change this later I wonder if I will be able to.....lol, maybe shouldn't use swear words for those who might be offended....)

July 10th George Aar turns 50!!! make sure the world knows what an old guy he is!!!