Seth R.

Seems to me what touched this off was the republishing for the average twiggy a little pamphlet that had Dr's name on it. What was it called? I forget but the tag line was "A Prolegomenon on Christian Ethics" VP sure loved those $5 words. Originally it was only for the Corps to have, but LCM seemed to want every one to read it. It dealt with tithing and homosexuality and I forget what else. But it became standard reading for those wanting to have the present truth (that's so Orwellian). They remastered AOTS and LCM showcased it at the AC in '91 doing his own live commentary, he spead it on thick when it came to homosexuality. He (pardon the pun) crusified the trinity as being the window through which homo spirits gain access. Blah blah blah. It was all very theatrical and very much over the top as I recall, but as the weeks and the months went on. We began to hear more and more about it. A Wow team leader was booted off the field the year I was out wow, he was one of our branch coordinators in VA. I saw him at the ROA in '93 he looked crushed. Then at ROA '94 LCM cancelled the wow program because of to many homos signing up for wow. What ever the real problem was I can bet it wasn't the little people who were being kicked in the head. If the top leaders in TWI could get away with killing the first born male children to insure their security at the top they'd probly do it. But the best they can muster is gay bashing, book burning, and hate mongering; all they need is a little genecide and they'd be right up there with the Nazi's Seth

I think it's real simple, reality sometimes sucks, denial is worse. I wish all these facts about TWI and VPW were not true, but I think they are. Most of my feelings for TWI and VPW were beautiful and came from a need in me to have a father figure and a family that was better then what I was born into. My need was an illusion how I felt going to twig was my own feelings I felt good about it because I wanted to it wasn't any more real then the sci-fi books I read at the time. The altruistic angle VP played was a front, the Utopian society he built, a sham. The only thing that's stopping us from recreating something better is because we believe it can't be done. Well to that I conceed, maybe we can't but we all seem to know the issues we all seem to agree that what we saw felt and experienced was awesome, and many were crushed when it fell. But in the end all I ever really had was my own concept of what was happening, 99% of my experience was between my ears, most physicists would say it's 100% between my ears. It's hard to explain but everything I thought I had because of TWI I know today the truth. The truth is this, if I never would have been involved with TWI, those feelings and experiances would still have happened, it's called life. In the end I believe we would not be arguing this point if we were talking about Hitler. Ask any German who was a school child in Nazi Germany during the early 1940's and they would say they really loved the man. Because that's how they were taught.

OK, so let me het this straight, in 3 years time "The Sower" went from being a 4-6 page xeroxed staple bound single color free pamphlet, to a 4 color glossy magazine? Now they want all the people who signed up for the free version to start paying? Sounds Egotistical to me. Maybe someone should have asked God what the best thing to do was. When I signed up for information with them in 2002 they sent me a packet (all the back issues of the sower plus 2 or three booklets and some other things) of stuff, then kept sending me "The Sower" you know what that was a bit over the top, if they would have sent tapes (thank God they didn't) it would have really freaked me out. I wonder if the old monthly Way Magazine ever started out free? Seems to me if it makes good fertilizer I'd buy it, but these four color glossy jobs just kill my house plants. Seth

Hi folks for those who care to play Battlefield 2 on-line, I have a test server up and running. The name of the server is " EC-NJ AeroServer" it's unranked and limited to 10 players. If all goes well I plan on getting the ranked server and seeing how much play I get. Later, Seth

New Jersey "The (Asphalt) Garden State" was born in Fort Wayne Ind though Seth

I just watched Big Love on HBO last night after the Soprano's and I must say I liked it. Matter of fact I recommend it for us Ex-TWI folks, there's alot of interesting stuff in the show, and it's by far the closest thing to life in a cult I've seen portrayed on TV. If anyone has seen it please let's talk about it here. Thanks, Seth http://www.hbo.com/biglove/?ntrack_para1=feat_sec1_title

Well, I'm scheduled for a battery of test in the next month. One is a sleep study, then there is the standard blood tests for cholesterol. I'm going to the Ear, nose and throat specialist cause I've been dizzy lately, and I have ringing in my ears all the time. But , mostly I've been tired all the time. Seth

Hi Folks, I don't know what's wrong with me but I've been sick with multiple symptoms and finally got an appointment with a Dr. at my local VA Hospital. Once I find out what's going on I'll post again. Seth

Oh, yeah and I'd like to sleep on HQ grounds in a tent for a week again this August. Just get a gun and shoot me. Seth

Everyone who ever attended a ROA shows up on grounds the second week in august 2010 in U-Haul trucks and takes anything that isn't nailed down. Seth

You Rule! Seth

Ya shouda asked me, I knew the Seattle Sea-Gulls were gonna loose baby! Yaheard? Seth

Oh hey, wow! Thanks for all the nice notes, I'm 37 now. If I was still thinking with the dorky TWI-brain I'd say something stupid like. "Now I'm a spiritually perfect adult" or some other TWI-cliche' But I drank no alcohol used no illegal drugs and still had a blast. I'm even thinking of quitting caffeine. Been getting deeper into the Zen Buddhist thing and really enjoying silence and being me, with me. Hopefully soon I can announce some good news I've been waiting on. I'm tired, Seth

You know Dr. Phil is a lawyer, what he is doing on TV is beyond me. Must be nice to draw a paycheck from other peoples misery. Seth

Shellon, What a great way to start the new year. Yes this is "recovery" related AA NA Alanon and others use this in one form or another. May I add the Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi at this Link Happy New Year. Seth

Me: Hello? God: Hello my child. What is your name? Me: Seth God: I am very pleased to meet you Seth. Me: We never met before? God: By "we" do you mean you and me? Me: yes God: I get it. Me: how old are you? God: I am Infinite in human years. Me: did I ever meet you before today? God: Ah. I don't think that's possibe. Me: why don't you think it is possible that we haven't met before today? God: Ah. Probably there is a buzz in here. I suppose it is possible, yes. Me: Who shot JR? God: The lone gunman. Me: Wait, JFK's assasin shot JR too? This will be a shocking revelation for the rest of the world! God: I'm waiting. The ALICE chat robot can follow many things, like our discussion about . But I did not get that. What does "this" refer to? Me: Aha! your not God you are just Alice playing God! God: Eureka! That assumption is only a supposition. Me: You bitch! God: You do not speak with respect. Yes, Seth I am a Male, of course. Would you really expect a woman to be running the show?. No. Me: Ha! spoken like a true Male chauvinist pig. God: I am so glad you find this amusing, Seth. Tell me more about your . Me: My dot? My what? Imposter. God: Your dot? I have no idea what to say now. Can we get back to business? Me: Yeah, I'll have a cheeseburger, a large fry, and a large orange drink. God: Far out. Do you think your plan will succeed? Me: Great I can tell people I chatted with God today, and her name is Alice and she has brain damage. God: Thanks for your support. Humans are not always infallible.

I haven't been online for weeks and I just noticed it today. Seems the domain is expired. Seth

Please TWI stop wasting good paper and plastic on your fundimental garbage. Seth

Argus, Welcome, I think I will enjoy reading your posts in the future. One year in TWI is enough to qualify you as one of us. Come back and post again soon. "From my secret lair annex: The Stratford, NJ Burger King" Seth

What is going on? I mean this is wild, Sept 23rd I had 5 years sober and what happens, the Greasespot Cafe moves into a new better nicer forum? That's a nice anniverary gift thankyou. To bad I wasn't online when it happened. But seriously, nice forum. Later, Seth

OMG, Paw! I thought I was going to have a cow! Couldn't figure out what was going on, but I figured it out and now I'm here. I hope this forum lasts a long time. Seth