Nathan_Jr
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If it tastes like baloney, but it's labeled pickles, is it really apple butter?
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An absent Jesus Christ blinded Saul? Was Saul so humbled by Jesus Christ's absence that he bowed down to him?
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Got it. Many thanks, George!
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Would someone please provide me a brief description of the game and its rules? I can imagine modifications and updates along the way, but with 85 pages in this thread... well, it's too much straw to sort.
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Paul, a self-described Jew's Jew of Abraham's seed, writes of the Lord, the Lord Jesus, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord Christ Jesus, Jesus the Lord, Christ Jesus, Jesus Christ, Christ the Lord... so often in the present tense as one not only IN but WITH. It seems the 'present' Lord is, explicitly or implicitly, literally or figuratively, mentioned way more often than a so-called 'absent' Lord. Much more often. Dozens, maybe hundreds of instances. I am making this observation as a non-jihadist Christian - I don't have a stake in this game either way. Anyone can do the simple math. There are too many for ME to count right now. I'm on my way to my bocce match. My time is limited, but somehow I have time to write this - a novel cop out I learned from someone here at the café. I recently came across at least one while reading 2 Timothy. Can you find the record? Hint: it's NOT an anomaly. Just a tremendous kernel. Bless your little hearts.
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Right. It's obviously ordered by arbitrary judgement. How else? If not human authority, then what? Divine authority? Says who? A human?
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But you're the one who brought it up, so it MUST interest you. What is your point? What does Aramaic have to do with 2 Timothy? Do you think 2 Timothy was originally written in Aramaic???
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Do you beleeve 2 Timothy was originally written in Aramaic???
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Sounds like overkill. One would think he only needed to teach it twice - the second time establishing it and all. But, Hey! I didn't write the book.
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Wierwillian ≈ Orwellian mmmm... yum
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I read them. They say nothing about how the Bible was put together. What do you beleeve they say about making a Bible?
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It seems familiar, but it's just out of reach. I can't get it.
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Those books were chosen to be included in the canon. The books themselves didn't do the choosing. Have you clicked on any of those links T-Bone provided? Did you watch that excellent video Waysider provided? Those are arguably the churchiest, proto-catholic books of the entire NT. They were obviously written well after the 1st century.
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Which writers? The early church fathers?
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I've asked you polite, legitimate, honest questions from a place of genuine curiosity. You choose to ignore my questions, as usual, and get caught up in a fight with T-Bone. I'm glad I got your attention. Actually, God got it, because irony is from God. When you have time, you can engage this discussion, or not.
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What kind of Dr. was victor? Was he a medical doctor? A dentist? A veterinarian? No. He mail-ordered a doctorate of theology and was issued the certificate as soon as his check cleared. This is an academic, scholastic credential. Theology is in the same school as philosophy. victor coveted this credential of academia. It was a source of great anxiety and insecurity that turned into great pride and pretentious puffery. A Doctor. A Bible scholar. A credentialed "teacher." Irony is from God.
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The earliest MSS fragment is a credit card size papyrus of John: P52. I think normal date ranges are within 50 years, but P52 is so old they can only estimate within 100 years - 125CE-225CE... (I think. Not looking it up right now. Head's about to explode. Need to renew my mind.) Could be that the first complete MSS of a whole gospel of epistle dates to around 350. Your point is well taken. I recently caught this same error and have been meaning to add it to the Actual Error in PFAL thread.
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You pickin up what I'm putting down, cuz.
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What about this topic bothered you? I wonder if it's what also bothered victor. Was it all the arguing about which books would be included? Was it the sectarian conflicts leading to winners and losers in a politically-charged arena of churchianity? Was it the burned, banned and buried scriptures that didn't make the cut because one group won out over another? What verses do you think answer the canonical problem? How did Mark, Luke, John and Paul (not Matthew?) assemble the canon? Was Paul really concerned with a canon of scripture? After all, he thought he knew God's timeline - he thought the eschaton was coming in his own lifetime. And, again, what exactly is the problem?
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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile. Nothing left to do but....
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The Masorah is the transmission of religious tradition or the religious tradition itself? From this the Masoretic Text is derived, right? The MT dates from the 7th to 11th century. AND the variants among the MT, the Septuagint and the Dead Sea Scrolls are not insignificant. Would you please elaborate on this advanced technology?
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Thanks for the clarification. I look forward to you sharing some notes from your limited collaboration with him. Or just your own notes. Walter doesn't matter to me. This can be the last time we ever have to mention his name, if it's all the same to you.