Nathan_Jr

It doesn’t bother me if you stay. This forum is open to anyone, but some have an easier time than others.

It’s rare to see someone refer to victor as “Dr.” I must admit, the dishonesty is refreshing. 

Have you seen the excellent documentary Muscle Shoals (2013)?
 

Four crucified is emblematic of man’s gullibility, stupidity and dishonesty. As long as it is “taught,” as long as it is regurgitated, I will stand against it.

As long as charlatans like Victor Wierwille (not a real doctor), Loy Martindale, Chris Reed and Kat Kerr are defecating into the mouth of God, I will stand against them.

"Whipping Post" Allman Brothers Band

Not really playing, so I'll make it super easy, a virtually free post. Duane Allman played on a certain cover of this song. Bonus points for naming the cover artist with whom Duane played.

"...don't make it bad
Take a sad song and make it better
Remember to let her into your heart
Then you can start to make it better"

He's Rick James, Bitch!

1 - 4 are non answers, but we agree on #5. Not sure why you are confused. 

50 minutes ago, JoyfulSoul said:

We agree on something?  

Maybe. On which of these do we agree?

1. TWI believes four crucified.
2. People no longer involved with TWI still believe four crucified.
3. Four crucified is stupid and refutable.
4. Wierwille was a charlatan fraud.
5. Music is more fun than all the above.

People believe four crucified and flat earth. TWI still teaches four crucified. People who reject TWI still believe four crucified. It's a stupid and easily refuted belief.

Wierwille was a charlatan fraud. That's an observation, not hate.

Music is more fun for sure. Carry on.

Conspiracy theories came up earlier. That reminded me of flat earth, which reminded me of Bullinger, which reminded me of four crucified. An ironic digression to redirect the discussion away from conspiracy theories and politics and back to the stupidity of wierwille.

Flat earth and four crucified and intellectually dishonest and stupid claims. They require lies to overcome the evidence against them. Ultimately, to argue for either will require conspiracy as a premise. 

12 minutes ago, waysider said:

But only if they fit like a hand in an oven mitt.

Four crucified and flat earth are the stupid pieces of bread holding together the bullsh¡t sandwich.

I didn't say anything about a Bilderberg Group. Another red herring.

2 minutes ago, waysider said:

I would say the "whenever" part is where disgression becomes a consideration.

I should have been mathematically exact and scientifically precise.

STUPIDITIES and LIES should be disputed and refuted whenever they arise.

Right. Conspiracy theories are not good.

The stupidity of conspiracy theories like four crucified and flat earth should be disputed and refuted whenever they arise.

Waysider is right. Bullinger was wrong.

Both of those statements are true and easily proven.

It's not bait. Flat Earth is a conspiracy theory. Seems on topic.

I am reminded of The Universal Zetetic Society of which  E.W. Bullinger was a member. Bullinger was a flat-earther. (Knowing this can aid in understanding why and how an otherwise intelligent, educated man could be so stupid as to assert the easily refuted claim of four crucified.)

Flat-earthers are a zealous bunch.

30 minutes ago, waysider said:

Oh, that VeePee. What a jokester, huh?

Such a sophomore.

"Working this topic...working the word...work the word..." -- VPW/TWI

"If it doesn't fit, ya gotta MAKE it fit." -- VPW

If one is insulted by another’s observation, then the insulted will be the sole participant in the insult.

Mmmph

You’ve put some basic logical fallacies to good use on this thread - Ad hominem, red herring, strawman, false equivalence… Mastering these is foundational to the Advanced Class.

You’re ready, friend-o!!

TWI Today should fit you like a hand in a…

No one here ever claimed it was.

By definition Zionism is political. That there are theological arguments for the political movement doesn't make the movement any less political.

I am not aware of any moderators ever revealing their thoughts regarding this political topic. I've never revealed mine and don't intend to.

You could try with great care to start a topic in Doctrinal addressing your thoughts on what Romans 9, 10 and 11 mean for today... this, our day and time.