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Yes, of course. Every single episode, in some seasons, introduced ANOTHER receptionist with their own little quirk. The payoff was seasons later. Scott Bakula's character is bowling with the FYI team, and chatting. "What? No, seriously-Murphy's had a lot of secretaries?" I channel-surfed, caught that, and went into hysterics.

Is this "the Lego Movie"?

You would mention "the Shoveler" while I was out of town....

I hope you guys will get this fast. I will be offline till the coming weekend. The title character sure had a lot of receptionists....

We did entirely different things, actually. Feel free to post more in the humor forum. The original thread was a decade old, so it's no surprise you missed it.

Sorry. I was under the impression it was not a new show when I saw episodes. And what I read made it sound like the finale was received with near apathy, especially once the ending was revealed. It sounded like the audience would be disinterested in seeing it air ever again.

Here was the old one, "twi Mad Libs."

Yes, we had twi Mad Libs Round 1 before. When I have time, I will do a second round. Give me at least a week.

Strictly speaking, vpw did not publish the ugly bronze statue or its collectible midget counterparts. He died in 1985. Sometime around 1991, they made the big, ugly statue and greenlit the little ones. AFAIK, there were never plastic ones for the dash or little hula dancers, just heavy, bronze statuettes.

With a broad topic, there's room for side-discussions that are still on-topic.

Is this the contrived "How I Met Your Mother" series? I'm glad they actually MET, but by the time they did, nobody cared anymore.

In case you missed it, TLC, that's a "brush-off." Apparently, he doesn't want to discuss any of that with you.

When we're talking vpw, of course there is. When he was young, he was a neighborhood bully, the son of a man known for yelling a lot. He co-opted the hippie movement, but in private, he taught them conspiracy tinhat stuff from the john Birch Society, and all that fear always includes a side-order of violence in response to the main-course of FEAR! vpw was fond of having ARMED bodyguards, and made comments to the corps like how this person should be shot or that one should be shot. One time, one military veteran heard this, and began packing to go off and shoot that person-one poster here talked him into unpacking and staying instead. As for lcm, his "style" largely consisted of yelling. vpw cursed in private a lot- but lcm did it in public a lot- parents reported their children having learned to curse specifically FROM lcm.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pigeonhole "3: a neat category which usually fails to reflect actual complexities" If I turn on the television at the perfect moment and gain insight from something broadcast at that instant, and someone comes along trying to explain that in terms of "gift ministries", I have to call "bushwah" on that because Not every blessing has to be the direct result of a "gift ministry." I really don't know how to make that any simpler.

That's why I said he "lifted things he didn't understand." When he taught it in pfal, he definitely didn't understand it, because he taught the opposite later. Naturally, this makes for an obvious error, since it can't be both true as one thing and completely true as its opposite at the same time. Not a problem for the sensible student-but for those who think that vpw was close to Jesus in understanding, or getting it direct from God Almighty, this is a problem and requires denial or enough fog to hide it completely.

Of course, just taking isolated quotes is no guarantee that they are FAIRLY represented. Cutting a quote from its context can be used to make it say the opposite of what it was meant to say. "There is no God" from "The fool says in his heart,'There is no God.'" It's certainly common enough in politics, even though it's dishonest. As for what vpw stole, I have no proof anything he stole was necessarily sound just because he felt it was worth stealing. He plagiarized the Word-Faith movement, with their "believe and deflect all bad events in your life" stuff- and that whole movement's based on a Christian voodoo. vpw claimed that "all the women in the kingdom belonged to the king" when Israel was a kingdom- but that was never true except in his delusions. vpw often lifted things he didn't even understand- which is why he sometimes made some remarkable mistakes or contradicted himself. ("'All' is always either 'all without exception' or 'all without distinction." "Now, was this 'all' 'all without exception', or 'all with a distinction'?") Just ASSUMING vpw's sources were sound and relatively error-free is a bad bet.

Even supposing your friend was joking, he was joking with a pattern of inflated claims like we'd heard lots of times before and after that. "In 1976 I attended my first ROA's in Sydney Ohio. I remember the WOW's with whom we travelled saying that VP does not sleep during this whole entire event. He was so 'spiritually' wired that he was awake for the whole 4 days, praying and teaching and meeting needs..." "It was TWI that caused the fall of the Soviet Union. If it had not been for Wierwille's stand on the Word countless countries would have fallen to communism, California would have slipped off into the Pacific Ocean, and we would all now be speaking Russian - That is, if the giant comet that was headed directly for the Earth has not been diverted by VPW's great believing." "When Squeaky From went to shoot the President and her gun did not fire, it was because VP had the foresight to send WOW's there that day. Because of the WOW's presence, under the direction of VP, our President was saved." "God told VP to put WOW's on the San Andres fault in California. This prevented the HUGE earthquake which otherwise would have happened. I recall someone in CA said something bad about TWI and VP said, "I should just take my WOW's off the fault and see what happens to them." "Did you know that TWI prevented the certain overthrow of the USA by all the witnessing we did and by the production and promotion of America Awakes? It was all going to happen by the bi-centennial in 1976. Heck, I still have my copy of "The Secret new Constitution" which had been drafted by the evil powers, the Catholic church being foremost among them! America Awakes drove back the spirit power. Our country was saved! Thank God all those WOW's signed up. Just in the nick of time. Their door to door and street witnessing changed destiny! A more recent example in TWI II was Y2K. Quote from LCM and other leaders: "It was the preparation on the household of The Way that kept anything from happening."

Not every blessing has to be the direct result of a "gift ministry." Trying to pigeonhole everything into one's pet theory is a good way to really sail off into left field- and was/is common in twi. I once heard someone on an STS tape teaching on his cutesy concept of "Recover, Resist, Rejoice." He began to read and expound. "*reading* 'Be sober, be vigilant' *expounding* That's like recovering." Uh, no it isn't-and it shouldn't have to be unless you're forcing EVERYTHING to fit into your framework, subordinating the communication of God Almighty to your religious construct.

"Censorship" is about silencing voices. Civil discourse, brother, DOES have limits. Generally, WE can manage OURSELVES and refrain from venting spleen or posting something coarse or truly insulting. Occasionally, a staffer has to remind us to manage ourselves. More rarely, a staffer needs to step in. Me, I prefer to manage myself before they need to step in. And I prefer that there is a limit after which is "going too far." Truly unmoderated messageboards are incoherent trollbait when they're not overrun by spambots and Nigerian princes looking for assistants. The Sun Sentinel, as a respectable newspaper, has a limit as to what it will allow in print-and an editor WILL step in if needed. That's S.O.P. for newspapers. ========================================== You caught that, too? And you beat me to it. It reminds me of all the other inflated, grandiose claims- and that reminds me of the thread where we discussed them... "vpw? Superman? Green Lantern?"

It's obvious his methods were all consistent with operating primarily as a business, because every single program was designed to operate AT A PROFIT. People never paid COST for anything-they paid RETAIL. He wanted money to come in, and after a certain point he became more interested in OBEDIENCE and BLIND LOYALTY than in simply raising numbers or even raising more money. It's really shocking to hear some of the stories-like vpw claiming to buy the furniture used to film pfal- then returned it and claimed he was unsatisfied so he could get a refund. Naturally, twi still recommends this type of strategy- "buy" a big TV for "the class" then return it when the class ends. Most people consider these "shameful" things for Christians to do-but vpw was big on never feeling guilt about things. Small wonder he was fine doing so many shameful things when he considered NOTHING to be truly shameful so long as you're not caught. Of course, vpw had no experience in managing, and absolutely no background in any type of leadership training program. That's why he claimed that a leader is someone who is followed blindly and never questioned. His view of leadership NEVER included the RESPONSIBILITIES for a leader, just the perks.

Mixed message: I'm not interested in insulting you, but let's talk about yo' mama for awhile... Think very carefully before hitting "add reply." To send insults that often means you really mean to insult, or you don't care enough that you're not thinking and reviewing before you post. Some days I refuse to reply because I'm not sure where my emotions would be, and posting angry or impulsive is a bad thing, as I see it.

The ugly bronze statue (and it is ugly) is in the Auditorium. The 3 graves on-site are together by the fountain, vpw's is one.

That's it.

To hear some people say it, he had "human frailties", which sounds like he cheated on his diet. It really doesn't do justice to saying he was a rapist, a fraud, a simonist, a plagiarist, an adulterer, a chain-smoker and alcoholic...... A FRACTION of the real list sounds scary to pair with a leadership position.

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