WordWolf

"This is gonna replace CD's soon; guess I'll have to buy The White Album again."

"You see this? Huh?! N-Y-P-D! Means I will kNock Your Punkass Down!"

Even I should have figured that one out after a clue like that! :)

I thought you were being a gentleman and letting me get it since I was so close. :)

If this is Voyager, you can post the entire script and I still won't get it. I haven't seen

much of that series or Enterprise.

Sigourney Weaver

Trading Places

Eddie Murphy

Is a malamute/wolf mix even trainable? He definitely has a wild side to him.

Wolf/dog mixes are not trainable like dogs-they combine the wolf nature with an

unpredictable element from the dog.

This doesn't mean he's untrainable- no animal is untrainable. However, this

is not an easy task.

I would read up on wolves for some insight. If you can "see things from a wolf's

perspective", you can figure out what he wants, and maybe work something out.

From what you said, he wants his trophies. Possibly you can set up a wolf-den

for him, and socialize him to associate that with "his spot", where he can relax

and play with anything he wants. (Maybe he'd leave the rest of the area neater.)

I knew someone who "owned a wolf", and it socialized well- about as well as a dog.

That's an incredible exception-not a rule. (This wolf was allowed indoors in winter,

which should tell you how well he was socialized to that home.)

It's on my "To-do" list.

As soon as I can figure out when to see it.

Is this "Beverly Hills Cop II?"

I have seen several people over the years grudgingly admit that there were good things taught in PFAL and in the Way, but they are quick to point out their opinion that it is not to the credit of VPW, but to the credit of God teaching people in spite of VPW. Well, glory be to God! I think maybe they dont realize that there are quite a few of us who found some value in the things we were taught and realize that God, not VPW, should get the glory for whatever good we learned. When, at ROA 1976, VPW deliberately misquoted Ephesians as "Finally, my brethren, be strong in V.P. Wierwille", the "no" response he got wasn't loud enough for him. For show? OK, let it be so and let us take him at his word on that and be strong in the Lord. Not too long ago, a poster stated that the things we learned in PFAL or TWI didnt have anything to do with the "heinous" actions of VPW. When one of our long time posters stated an agreement with that, the first poster suddenyl deleted the original statement.

Anyway, Spectrum, it doesnt sound like you are a VPW worshipper, just a God worshipper.

vpw: "Finally, my brethren, be strong in VP Wierwille."

crowd:"No."

vpw:"Say it LOUDER!"

crowd:"NO!"

vpw:"That's right.

You're not strong in VP Wierwille. Many of you have heard God's Word through my ministry,

but I didn't die for you."

(shouted from offsides):"It was Jesus Christ!"

vpw:"You said it man!"

There were times-like then, like in ROA 77, when he covered Hebrews 13, when vpw claimed we were to look to

Jesus Christ, and not to himself or any other leader. I think this was correct to say.

"OK, let it be so and let us take him at his word on that and be strong in the Lord."

I agree.

Making people wait was a great way of insuring most of the questions would get forgotten or that people would be too indoctrinated to bring them up in the end... And, of course, they told you not to take notes, so I actually saw folks get reamed over writing during a session, even though what they were writing was the questions they were told to write down and ask at the end...

In addition, I saw a couple of situations where a person actually did ask questions at the end, but weren't as receptive to the answers they got as the leadership wanted, and those folks were told they were just there trying to make trouble and were escorted from the room and told they had not officially graduated from the class and were not welcome to come back!

(((why didn't that wake me up at the time...????)))

Depends on where and when the class was run.

I was a fulltime student when I took that class.

And I was an EXCELLENT note-taker. (Well, it was "my job.")

So, when Session I began, I had the syllabus, a large-print Bible, and a book to take notes in all on my lap, and I successfully juggled all three

until the first pause. At that point, the person running the class let me know I could take the notes in the syllabus.

(Which worked better for everyone.)

Taking notes was one way I kept awake through the whole thing.

In fact, I also got other people taking notes in later classes for the same reason. ("Professional student.")

Then again, in NYC, things didn't really conform so closely to the expected standard.

(That's why almost everyone IN NYC left when lcm drew his line in the sand in 1989.)

It wouldn't surprise me if the remainder started banning that practice in the 1990s.

I think the "hold the ketchup, hold the questions" strategy merely allowed one to wade through thrity six hours of mind numbing minutae which left one so numb that the poor person couldn't remember that they had questions, no less remembering what they really were..

Locally, we had it SO much better than in most of your areas.

One guy I know, his class, they were told to write down their questions before session 1 began-

questions they wanted answered.

After session 12, the questions were gone over, and most of them had been touched on during the class.

(His question: What about the dinosaurs? Session 6.)

Then again, when conforming corps were placed here, their efforts were a lot like kicking a bale of cotton-

the impression went away as soon as you moved your foot. :)

Is this "Beverly Hills Cop"?

(Not a diehard one...it's not gelling for me....)

[WordWolf in [brackets]as usual.]

Hi,

I am new here, and don't want to offend anyone and besides, i want to see whatmy avatar looks like...... anywho...

[Hello.]

I support ridding yourself of anything that holds you back from being your best. If it makes you feel bad, toss it. if it has sentimental value, hold on to it until you are ready to let it go. If you love it and someone loves it more and you know that they will appreciate it, give it to them. It's never wrong to give.

I just thought about Uncle Harry the other day, remember when it was said that he would empty out his bank account except one dollar? I wonder about that. I never tried it, but that doesn't mean I don't believe God to take care of me. Do what is asked of you from God's Word and don't worry about it. That's how I feel.

[i have to be skeptical if Harry Wierwille actually did that or not. All the accounts he DID were from him,

vpw, and maybe a few other people.

If YOU try it, I recommend you do what he probably did IF he did it at all....

...wait for the end of the year, and do that with your BUSINESS' finances,

donate to a legally-registered non-profit organization,

and declare a large TAX DEDUCTION.

I straight-out don't believe he actually just gave away all his money except one dollar with no

plans to use that legally to get money, and just expected "God to supply his needs."

I believe God takes care of needs, but I believe part of that is "the brains that God

gave you" and good stewardship of your money, not expecting dollars from heaven.]

I think a lot of us in the Corps would have been a lot happier if we could have cranked up the tunes and jammed every so often, to let off steam. Like is there anything better to a kid in 1977 then Ted Nugent's Free For All? Or Cream. Would it have hurt anyone?

[it would have hurt nobody that I know of.

However, it was contrary to the goal of conformity, so that was a big no-no if someone knew

you had it planned.

Naturally, I think that made it more important that someone crank them up...]

Legalism is not a good thing, and neither is a license to hurt, defame, shatter, or talk ugly about people.

Life is a balance.

And if the wife doesn't have permission to toss it, then leave it alone! Always ask first, that's loving.

I hope this didn't offend anyone. I just like to jump right in and get my feet wet.

Thanks for listening.

[Thanks for posting.]

It's completely new to me.

Offhand, I'm slower to believe this one than, say, Raphael Gasson's personal accounts in

"the Challenging Counterfeit", since I'm able to contextualize his claims in a non-contradictory

framework.

Or, to put it differently,

I can buy a spiritualist leaving spiritualism for Christ would be harassed by demons

that would try to possess him, involuntarily doing what they did before.

I can't buy 48 people being given diseases by demons.

Not without a whole additional framework I see no reason to add-

except "I want to believe them", of course.

Your Mileage May Vary.

The impression I've gotten is that some corps and/or higher-ups had a bigger problem with men

who were Spouse Corps, i.e., "If you were a REAL man, you've have gone Corps!"

Was this experienced, or is this just they way I've read the posts?

Anybody else remember the old mint and clove tradition for teachers? Every lectern had to have a little dish with cloves and mints. And the mints were to be Life Savers, broken into four pieces. When I once asked why they didn't just used Tic Tacs, it was explained that this was the way Dr. W liked it, so all teachers were to have it.

Oh, it gets worse than that.

As you know, that was to cover the alcohol-breath from all his drinking.

So, he would put a mint in his mouth, break it open in his mouth,

and use the freshly-broken mint to cover the alcohol reek.

So, eventually, he complained that he couldn't find a normal mint to put in his mouth-

that at the lectern, they were all broken up.

When someone said they did that because he said he broke mints, he clarified

that he broke them in his MOUTH.

I can't find the original post this second, but it's here somewhere.

So, it wasn't even the way vpw liked it.

It was done like the famous old story about cutting the end of the ham off,

which-ironically- I first heard in twi.

Here's how some of the quotes went....

"How do you spell that, 'Honkey'?'

"Uh, 'Y,T'!"

" 'Y,T'?"

"Yeah! Say it again!"

"Y,T, Y,T'..."

"Whitey!"

Fred giving a police report to Officer Swanson, "Swanny", who was Caucasian, and

extremely straight-lace and un-hip.

"You said that two of them held you, and one of them beat you. What about the fourth man?"

"That's the one that yelled 'Get him.'"

Fred claimed Lamont's fragile new collection was STOLEN rather than admit he broke it.

So, he invented an entire police report to give them.

Swanny was getting all the details down.

"Watch it, sucka."

Aunt Esther said this a LOT.

"The fungus is among us!"

"You can say that again!"

From the episode Fred tried to do a tax scam by declaring his house/business a church,

but discovered the overseeing body was a scam....

"Who you calling ugly, sucka?"

"I'm calling you ugly. I could push your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies."

Fred and Aunt Esther.

(IRL, Redd Foxx and LaWanda Page were good friends, and he recommended her for

this part.)

"Come on and hear, come on and hear, Alexander's Ragtime Band!"

When Fred tried to break the world's record for staying awake, Bubba was one of his helpers.

Bubba would sing to jostle him. Bubba only knew one song. So he kept singing this line

all through the episode.

"I want my Daddy's records."

Fred donated some vinyl records to a library, then discovered they were collectibles,

especially some "Blind Mellow Jelly" records.

Bubba posed as one performer's son, and they tried to scam the library into

handing them over. Bubba's only line was this one.

"Come on-eat a table, run through a tree, do something!"

Grady met a martial arts black belt, and the guy just stood there, so Grady wanted to

see some parlor trick. (Some of what the guy said made sense, but when he showed

what a martial artist would do in a fight, he stopped for several seconds to warm up,

which is just ridiculous.)

"The wrath of God will strike you down!"

"This Louisville Slugger will knock you out!"

My favourite exchange between Aunt Esther and Fred G. Sanford.

"You fish-eyed heathen!"

Yes, Aunt Esther had several things she'd call Fred-this was the most common.

"Fish-eyed fool" was another.

========

Redd Foxx was a stage-name for an actor- his birth-name was Fred Sanford Junior.

He was nicknamed "Little Red" once for his hair.

The actor had an unusual death. He had a heart attack in front of friends.

They were so used to him faking heart attacks it took several seconds to realize

he was having a real heart attack.

Go, George!

The last one sounds like LaWanda Page ("Aunt Esther")

"Sanford and Son"?

George

CORRECT!

"How do you spell that, 'Honkey'?'

"Uh, 'Y,T'!"

" 'Y,T'?"

"Yeah! Say it again!"

"Y,T, Y,T'..."

"Whitey!"

"You said that two of them held you, and one of them beat you. What about the fourth man?"

"That's the one that yelled 'Get him.'"

"Watch it, sucka."

"The fungus is among us!"

"You can say that again!"

"Who you calling ugly, sucka?"

"I'm calling you ugly. I could push your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies."

"Come on and hear, come on and hear, Alexander's Ragtime Band!"

"I want my Daddy's records."

"Come on-eat a table, run through a tree, do something!"

"The wrath of God will strike you down!"

"This Louisville Slugger will knock you out!"

"You fish-eyed heathen!"

No.

Nope.

"How do you spell that, 'Honkey'?'

"Uh, 'Y,T'!"

" 'Y,T'?"

"Yeah! Say it again!"

"Y,T, Y,T'..."

"Whitey!"

"You said that two of them held you, and one of them beat you. What about the fourth man?"

"That's the one that yelled 'Get him.'"

"Watch it, sucka."

"The fungus is among us!"

"You can say that again!"

"Who you calling ugly, sucka?"

"I'm calling you ugly, I could push your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies."[/b]

the Crush

Alicia Silverstone

Batman & Robin

"How do you spell that, 'Honkey'?'

"Uh, 'Y,T'!"

" 'Y,T'?"

"Yeah! Say it again!"

"Y,T, Y,T'..."

"Whitey!"

"You said that two of them held you, and one of them beat you. What about the fourth man?"

"That's the one that yelled 'Get him.'"

"Watch it, sucka."

You forgot angel pins were also banished-couldn't wear crosses, couldn't wear angel pins.

(snip)

Dear Paw,

I do not understand all this board stuff. When it comes to computers and the internet I'm at kindergarten level. Are you facing legal pressure as to the content of this site? Is that common? Am I completely misunderstanding these references to board liability?

SOME PEOPLE JUST WON'T STOP AT ANYTHING TO GET PEOPLE TO BE QUIET.

Dear Rhino,

What is Waydale?

(snip)

What a supreme pity that the same organization that was the target of fear mongering and bullying of all sorts is now the same one that treats people just as badly and even worse.

WHAT'S NEXT, KIDNAPPING?

If twi could use kidnapping and other measures to enforce their will and conformity, they would.

As you've seen, at some places and times, they've really put people to the screws to get them to conform when IN twi,

and convinced them that to leave twi was to leave God's approval,

so that only when desperate did people decide to try leaving,

even if it meant God rejecting them.

The internet has been a boon towards making information easy to find and exchange.

Since twi thrives on a BLACKOUT of information, and controlling communication, it's small wonder that twi has considered

the internet its greatest threat and told people to never go online.

Years ago, when ex-twi survivors began to communicate together on Waydale, they traded notes and realized THEY

weren't the ONLY ones who suffered, and the more complete picture of twi began to form.

Waydale became a previously-nonexistent information resource, even to innies.

It hosted some documents, and was the only source of information on things like a civil suit by an ex-staffer

who sued for inappropriate stuff inflicted while on staff, which vpw taught lcm was perfectly normal.

AFAIK, (As Far As I Know), Waydale agreed to shut down as a consequence of the out-of-court settlement on the

aforementioned civil suit. Shortly thereafter, the GreaseSpot Cafe opened up, and some of the old Waydale

Documents are in the documents file.

The GSC's been around for what must be approaching a decade. If twi COULD shut it up, it WOULD.

But, that would have happened a decade ago, if it could have happened.

AFAIK, there's no pressure on Paw (from twi) to be quiet, conform, shut the site down, or anything else.

The First Amendment the the US Constitution guarantees certain rights, and this site operates well within those

rights (free speech, association, and so on.) Some might suspect that posted concerns that Paw would suddenly be

forced to shut the GSC down by twi are not really about that at all, since it's been shown not to matter by now.