WordWolf

Let's see.

How about this one....

The Klingons had announced an invasion of Cardassian space,

and the Defiant was on its way to Cardassia Prime to evacuate the Detapa Council

before they could be used as hostages.

And Garak was THINKING an unkind comment about prune juice.

Will Smith

Men in Black

Tony Shaloub

Ah... and there is the trap that's been laid so many people fail to recognize. There is no scripture in any Bible anywhere that instructs a Christian to think the truth of someone else.

[Most of the reason for that not being prevalent is the "no duh" nature of

that sort of thing. If you love your neighbor as yourself, you will not lie to your

neighbor, nor lie about your neighbor. What you will say will be true.

If the person did you much evil, then it is NOT wrong to say they did you

much evil. (Scroll up; it's in the Epistles.)

However, it is EXPECTED that all Christians mature to the point that they

themselves are able to distinguish between the right hand and the left.

Hebrews 5:12-14

12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

]

Why? Because Jesus Christ is the only truth there is! There is no one alive today, nor anyone who ever lived who is or claimed to be the truth other than Jesus Christ himself.

others, deceiving yourself and others about them?

If that's your belief, that explains a lot.]

Thinking evil IS the only truth for those outside of Christ.

[if that were true, then thinking evil is the path to Christ, for if it is ONLY

option for the non-Christian, by definition it is the option that takes them to

being born again, since some non-Christians DO become Christians,

and thus born again. Since your definition straitjackets thoughts into

this tiny box, this same definition MUST apply to their life up to redemption

and how they get there. Confessing Jesus as Lord and believing God raised

him from the dead are deliberate decisions.]

I'm not onlly refering to those who aren't saved and who do not know the Lord, but also the Christian who refuses to put on the mind of Christ. Either way - until one comes to Christ, it is impossible for them to think any different.

[And as long as one remains convinced they have THE Truth,

they will forever be blinded to truths more cogent than those they've learned.

They will remain bottle-fed for life, and eschew "strong meat" as

"high-faluting" or "overly intellectual" or "evil."

If it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, it's obviously wrong, to such a person.

Pity. ]

Star Trek: Generations

James Doohan

Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered Country

Tell me why Garak and Worf were fighting, and it's yours.

George

Either the Klingons attempted to invade the station,

or Garak made an unkind comment about prune juice.

Was that it? (The former, not the latter.)

Ok, this is a little tricky, but I trust everyone to remain on the Honor System.

"You've got a heart of glass or a heart of stone,

Just you wait 'til I get you home.

All your stopping, stalling and starting,

Who do you think you are- Joe Stalin?"

James 2:15-16

" 15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?"

Man, I knew the answer last week, but I'm blanking on it right now.

It's obviously an exchange between Worf and Elim Garak, DS9.

WHICH exchange is eluding me at this moment...

I don't know how I missed seeing this one.

This was Dr Frahnkensteen's portentuous speech just before the lightning "experiment"

in "YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN."

Since I'm pretty sure that's the answer here's a new song clue:

There's a killer on the road

His brain is squirmin' like a toad

Ah!

My brain finally kicked up the answer on this one!

"RIDERS ON THE STORM", by the Doors.

The NASV what the He!! is that,

[The New American Standard Bible is the one Bible in English that combines the advantages

of the KJV (availability plus the italics)

with the advantages of the RSV and NIV (clear language and improvements from the last

50 years).

Picture the advantages of the NKJV taken further.]

we might well be taking some scripture from the GGG, RSDF, WDFS, or any other Bull versions.

know about the other versions, let alone can compare and contrast them.

vpw himself made fun of this type of thinking, and mocked the people who supposedly

claimed that the "NIV was good enough for the Apostle Paul, so it's good enough for me."

Switch the letters "KJV" for "NIV" and you're demonstrating the SAME errors vpw mocked.]

Thinketh no evil simply means to think no evil this is not a hard, thinking only the best of people.

[if you understood 1/2 what you thought you did, you'd see that rattling off the syllables

is far from understanding the meaning of the words, let alone demonstrating them.

In this thread alone, you've shown us that you can think evil while telling us it's easy to

understand we're supposed to not think evil.

Usually it's the young that masters this level of naivete with this level of polarization.

(Not always, but they're the usual artists of this type of error.) ]

That is what the KJV says, the only version that is right.

Greg

[That sits there just like a diamond.....]

Volunteering to demonstrate to us how far even the vpw-supporters have come,

greg123 has offered us his perspective on what to use for study and research.

"That is what the KJV says, the only version that is right."

The following has all been posted by the same poster,

on this same thread...

"When you get to the place in your heart and mind,

where evil doers no longer exist. Thinking only the best

of people, manifesting the renewed mind.

At this point you have mastered the true definition of charity."

"In our reflection of Love towards one another.

We must show non believers the Joy

we have with the word. Being tender hearted

and forgiving, while rightly dividing God's word."

"ICOR 13:5

Thinketh no evil"

"Which spirit are you being guided by??"

"Since you attacked the source by not be guided by the spirit the question is a true question no attack involved. The question was pointed at you there was no attack. The question should have a answer, but

if you don't feel up to it I understand just tell the Devil Hi for me

Greg"

Well,

so much for actually setting an example and practicing what you preach....

Here's one for free:

Ever wonder why the KJV renders this word "charity",

and how "charity" got associated with doing things for people who needed them done

with no hope of repayment or reward for doing them?

Ever consider that actually spending significant amounts of your time, money or both

to help others with no hope of getting repayment or reward

(which "even the publicans do") is a natural outgrowth of having God's love in your

heart, and the natural response to HAVING that love?

Which "good" going church folk are we talking about?? The same ones who believe that God is three people. The bible states as a matter of truth. Manifestations are profitable for our learning, it doesn't matter what "good" folk do. ICOR 12:7 clearly states that no matter what anybody says.

The bible is of truth there is no way around that. Good church folk believe charity is to give all the money they have ICOR 13:3 And though I bestow all my good to feed the poor and have not charity it profiteth me nothing.

More good church folk I know don't believe Manifestations are real. This is just my personal experience, but as ICOR clearly states Manifestations are profitable for believers

See, this is the consequence of hobbling your thinking into the rigid channels of doctrine.

When some church people do that, you have nothing but contempt for that,

but it's perfectly acceptable for you to do it in the meantime.

You're dismissing fellow Christians as the result of what they don't know or what

they don't understand, or misunderstand, as you see it.

However, by that reasoning, you can be dismissed just as easily for your own shortcomings in those

areas or other areas-like COMPASSION, EMPATHY and so on. Your understanding of love

has much technical data to discuss, but it excludes a true heart-understanding on the subject,

true wisdom on the subject.

There's 2 sets of Christians I know, among others.

One set wrangles on the specific meaning of Greek words, and how many times they

occur in Scripture, and so on.

The other is inept with Scripture at times, and occupies their time doing things like feeding the

hungry, and lifting up those that have been brought low.

At the end of the week, which group has acted more the way GOD wants them to act?

If your answer isn't "obviously the second group, and it's silly to even compare them",

then you still don't get it. Knowledge puffs up.

This is for Wordwolf and Slick

We should reflect the love we have

with one another, putting off the old man,

putting on the mind of Christ. Sharing manifestations

for the profit of the believers and non- believers.

The Love:

1. John 3:16 For God Loved us

2. Deu 6:5 We should love God

3. John 13:34 Love one another this is where the reflection must come in

Renewal:

1. Eph 4:22-24 putting on the new man and putting off the old man

2. Rom 13:14 Put ye on the mind of Christ

Manifestation:

1. ICor 12:7 Manifestation is for the profit of Believers

All in all

ICor 13 is how Charity is to be performed

Therefore I have biblical evidence for the quote.

Greg

You have Biblical evidence for SOME of your claim.

You have not supported this business involving reflection,

nor have you even explained what you mean by reflection.

Therefore, that part remains vague, either by intent or accident.

Further, as DrtyDzn has already pointed out, you're shackling God with

restrictions He never gave by limiting his operation among men to only

the manifestation of the spirit, defined by the nine.

Manifestation is for profit, but not all profit is manifestation.

That's a flaw in your reasoning, and you really should correct it,

since it's limiting you.

ICOR 13:5

Thinketh no evil

Greg

Congratulations!

You found a verse. This can be the beginning of a successful dialogue.

Now, supposedly, the entire Bible never contradicts itself.

vpw said that, and many Christians say that.

Therefore, "apparent contradictions" are either the result of a bad translation

or misunderstanding of the text by the reader.

So, unless there's a mistranslation, any 2 sections of Scripture can be

found to agree once understood.

Therefore, take I Corinthians 13:5 and harmonize it with

II Timothy 4: 14-15

"14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:

15 Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words."

Many of us can accomplish this without difficulty. Since you're here attempting to

enlighten us, you should be able to do so as well.

Which spirit are you being guided by??

Greg

The Spirit of Truth.

As if it was relevant to the discussion.

Mentor and Son of Mentor, instead of merely absorbing and regurgitating TWI-jargon – try analyzing it – see if it jives with the ENTIRE Bible. This was a GREAT weakness of VPW and with TWI – they had a compartmentalized theology – lording the epistles above the Old Testament and the Gospels – instead of a unified approach. And really even their belief system is compartmentalized – they don't see inconsistencies across various topics. And it's always interesting to see how malleable TWI's viewpoint is: if they want you to hate what they hate they make it a big issue over the integrity of the Word being at stake; if they want you to ignore their gross misconduct then they rattle off a bunch of forgiving/loving verses. It's like an ordained chameleon behind the podium!

I find fault with your suggesting to think only the best of people, ignoring the reality that evil doers exist. A passage that immediately came to mind talks of a believer who did just the opposite of what you recommend. Psalm 139:19-22:

19. If only you would slay the wicked, O God! Away from me, you bloodthirsty men!

20. They speak of you with evil intent; your adversaries misuse your name.

21. Do I not hate those who hate you, O Lord, and abhor those who rise up against you?

22. I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies.

What about the many passages in Proverbs that not only instructs us to do things God's way [the way of wisdom] but also directs us to identify and avoid evil doers? A couple come to mind:

Proverbs 1:10

My son, if sinners entice you, do not give in to them.

Proverbs 4:14

Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil men.

Anyway – to recap today's comments: if you want to define biblical words – it makes sense to actually look in the Bible - and engage your brain before typing on the keyboard. Try that – instead of parroting TWI-speak – you might actually start a productive discussion.

And give ck a hug for us.

Slick,

This is funnier the Jay Leno last night, if you knew verses to back up your opinion you would be right.

[You've completely misunderstood how things work here.

See,

you just walked in and declared something true.

Goey pointed out you did that.

Then you decided he didn't make his case.

But you have it backwards.

See,

when you come in and make bald claims like that,

YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM.

So,

as you yourself pointed out, YOUR posts were flawed,

"If you knew verses to back up your opinion you would be right."

When challenged to do so, you've pretended you already DID,

which is dishonest and incorrect.]

For you to say something written is wrong it must disagree with the Bible first. The writings that were put in these threads were in full compliance with the Bible. Charity is of the bible therefore the bible must be used to define it.

for you to say something written is RIGHT it must agree with the Bible FIRST.

Your claims in these threads were CLAIMED to be in full compliance with the Bible,

but we are not going to just take your word, or anyone else's word,

that they do so.

You did NOT use the Bible to define "charity".

You made up a definition and announced it matched the Bible.

You completely failed to SUPPORT YOUR BALD CLAIM.]

The only thing you have shown me is that you can give me a paragraph with useless words. Slick you must be able to back up your opinions against the word with the word, and since you can't say that I am wrong straight out, the definition stands.

[The thing you've shown US is that you can post words, and when challenged, you can spew insults.

When making an assertion-which is how this thread started-

you must be able to back up your opinion WITH The Word.

Your definition NEVER stood, since it was never SUPPORTED.]

Victor Paul Wierwille's dream will keep pushin on, get ready for it.

Before he was born, men followed the same dream, and after his death, men have

resumed following it. The dream of a cushy life using the office of a leader of God's

people and not handling its responsibilities lives on still at twi and other places.

We know and are ready for it.

Other than "vpw and Bullinger say those are the themes for the Church Epistles,

AND we have to count them as 7, not 9,

AND we can ONLY apply this definition to the Church Epistles,

AND we have to count all 4 as only 3,

and can't apply it to 'ALL SCRIPTURE' like it ACTUALLY SAYS",

there seems to be no case for "this is the true meaning of that verse."

II Timothy 3:16-17.

"All scripture

is given by inspiration of God, and

is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

My credibility's just fine, thank you.

Neither you, vpw, OR Bullinger actually MADE A SIGNIFICANT CASE for this

interpretation you hold in common.

Return of the Jedi

Warwick Davis

Star Wars Episode I:the Phantom Menace

(Just saw that again the other day. He's got a "don't blink" appearance during the

podrace. He's just to the left of Watto the little bug-guy in the stands.

Look for him immediately after Anakin's racer stalls at the beginning of

the race.)

There's actually a lot of actors who made cameos in this movie,

or had more significant roles. Let's see who ends up in the next link...

Shaka...when the walls fell. :(

Next Generation Episode "Darmok," one of my favorites. In fact, I was going to use Shaka.. next!

George

"Sokath, his eyes uncovered!"

Yes, it was "Darmok".

"How long can we sustain warp five?"

"As long as the Captain wants it. Or until we blow up, whichever comes first."

George

Taking a swing at this...

was this when the Enterprise had to deal with the alien baby,

"JUNIOR"?

Otherwise, if it was the NextGen Enterprise, that was VERY slow.

That thing's top speed was in the Warp 9-range, sprinting,

and it CRUISED around Warp 5, so it could have done that for a long time...

I forget offhand how fast the TOS Enterprise went,

but-except for Scotty-we didn't have CONVERSATIONS where engineers whined.

Give ck a hug for us, and remind him that he can do his own posting here the same

as everyone else. It made little difference whether he, I, or a brand-new person

made the same claims, they tend to get weighed on their own merits.

(Or lack thereof, depending on the post.)

Hannibal

Anthony Hopkins

Bram Stoker's Dracula