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  1. I don't recall ever hearing Martindale "teach" on it, but our local Way Corps did: in 1995 or 96 Martindale wanted the Way Corps to find out where offshoot fellowships were functioning. I was instructed to call a woman who I knew from years before, who had graduated from the Corps and had split from Martindale immediately post-POP. I was to tell her that I was not with The Way, but was interested in going to some kind of fellowship. I was specifically instructed to lie to her in order to find out how many offshoot fellowships she knew about and who they were affiliated with. Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
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  3. You may have seen someone named Oakmom logged in on the boards from time to time, yes, that's my mother. She's never posted, but she's a regular reader of posts here at GS, and has been known to email threads to other family members. Her birthday is December 25th, Christmas Day. I'm posting this early, since I'll be extremely busy at work the closer we get to the holidays. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM! Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
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  5. The Tubes! When I was a lad on Long Island Twisted Sister used to do a cover of the song. Yes, I am a Lou Reed fan Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  6. Don't know why, but this song has been buzzing through my brain today. Anybody know who performed it? Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  7. yeah...Cream Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
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  9. I couldn't think of anywhere else to post this, so... I was with a few friends Monday night, and since I didn't have to go to work the next morning, we closed the bar and went to a party at the home of a friend of a friend. After a while some guitars and other assorted instruments came out and some cool reggae jams started. Soon the host looks at me and says, "Tom, we need a percussionist, and you're it". He hands me a wooden frog, with a stick stuck through it. The frog had scales on his back for scritching, and made different sounds depending on where you hit it. He had two, so me and the woman who brought me to this party ended up "beating our frogs" into the wee hours of the morning. Wonder what Way productions would have done with it? Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  10. Thanks for sharing here Mr. P-Mosh. I've got children your age, and sometimes wish I could rewind and undo some of the damage that was done to them by remaining in twi. Keep posting, keep sharing, your an important part of the Cafe. Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  11. Socks: Ol' BB's still got it! Saw him this summer at an outdoor theater in Council Bluffs, Iowa with George Thoroughgood and The Fabulous Thunderbirds. Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  12. see Magic Slim & The Teardrops Tinsley Ellis Jimmy Thackery or come to Nebraska and watch 'em with me Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  13. Loved that Hop, saw them live a couple of times Most definitely Missed that one - Rod Price is awesome! Still a great thread! Listening to Etheridge's first album (CD) right now. Dick Dale is up next! Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
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    Any F18 out there?

    Glad to see you back Mr. Howe! Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  15. A la prochaine has been encouraging me to visit this thread, but Thanksgiving week in the grocery biz is BUSY! but I've got ime tonight. Ted F: You've got some great stories, man, what a life. You made some good points about every musical wave getting resistance from the parents, going back to the 20's. I think of that every time I hear one of my contemporaries put down rap/hip-hop as "crap". Gee, what did our parents ay about our music. And I remember my grandmother once making a disparaging remark about my Dad's Dixieland Jazz. Ron G: Firehouse 5, huh? My dad had (maybe still has) a bunch of their 78's when I was growing up, cool stuff. I always had a hard time with the twi take on "devilish" music. I think that they were very inconsistant about it. How things were interpreted depended on what kind of music your local leadership liked! It was obvious that most, if not all, Way Productions performers were influenced by secular musicians to a greater or lesser extent. I remember Harve Platig talking about going to Columbus or dayton or someplace so some guy could teach him the Eddie Van Halen style of playing the neck of the guitar - kind of a flash thing - that he incorporated into his playing. I mostly enjoy blues, fusion jazz, and 70's rock (I'm listening to Hush from the Deep Purple boxed set right now) but enjoy music from many different styles. My teenage son and I turned each other on to each other's music regularly. I'd go sit with him in his room while he was listening to modern rock and hip hop; I like some and hated others! I'll listen to The Offspring's SElf Esteem and day, and to the surprise of most adults my age, I actually enjoy Eminem! My son ended up becoming a great fan of some old rock dinosaurs: AC/DC, KIss, and Van Halen, go figure. Oh yeah, I'm glad I can now listen to Melissa Etheridge again without every "believer" telling me that she is a lesbian. Man, I love that song Only One. Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is [This message was edited by Oakspear on November 24, 2002 at 22:39.]
  16. ...you can see a "bondage face" just kidding Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  17. Pay no attention to that twit behind the curtain... If and when you leave, you'll do it in your own good time. Don't let anyone here tell you what you should or shouldn't do regarding leaving (including me if I forget my own advice ) Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  18. OCD #2: I was in the northeast this summer: NYC, Philly, Boston. People were very nice. (even Chinson) I was friggin' shocked Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  19. Let's hope he doesn't have Mother Teresa's money, Fabio's intellect, Bill Gates' athletic ability, and Paul Bunyan's grasp of modern technology. Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  20. But would the Burger King taste the same as it did in Trenton? Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  21. If you're driving, I'm about halfway between Denver and Chicago on I-80. Would love to get together Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  22. Celebrate Halloween, All Souls and All Saints Day, Samhain or whatever - free from twi Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  23. Over the months I grew more used to not being in twi any longer. I started making non-Way friends and getting more serious about my work (instead of arranging my work schedule around "ministry events") I made it through the first round of holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's by working a lot of hours at work, plus the second job, and by some mutual support by a great friend here at Grease Spot. Her call on Christmas Day made my month. I reconciled with my parents and siblings, aplogizing to them for being a jerk to them while "in". I went to visit them this summer, meeting three nieces, two nephews and a brother-in-law that I had never met before. On the same trip I stopped to visit several GSers along with their spouses. It was an incredible time to compare notes and see just what life could be outside the Way; it was very encouraging. Another encouraging bit of news is that although my wife is still very Waybrained and loyal to twi, she has not attended a fellowship for quite a while. She has reasons that I won't discuss here, but oddly, still considers me a "copout" and herself as "being in the household". The result is that my children do not have to attend fellowships. They did not really want to anyway, and do not at all miss it. Every day is a new day, full of new challenges and joys. They're a lot better outside the way, than inside. Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is [This message was edited by Oakspear on October 24, 2002 at 21:01.]
  24. I was firmly convinced that you couldn't trust anything that Martindale taught, and soon came to the same conclusion about Wierwille. This is not to say that I thought that everything that they taught was wrong, just that it would all have to be re-examined, that it couldn't be trusted. Around this time I started looking into information from various "offshoots", "splinters", etc. I was amazed at how many different conclusion could be drawn, while using the same basic tools taught in PFAL. I came to the conclusion that i couldn't even trust or count on the methods used to study the bible and come to conclusions about it. Add to that the multitude of differing denominations, and I soon came to the conclusion that I couldn't be certain that Christianity in any form was right. I barely hung onto a belief that there was even a God. That's where I stand now, basically an agnostic: I don't know Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
  25. I was so confused. I saw with my own eyes the error that was being taught. The STS teachings backed up the syllabus, nothing had changed. My efforts had uncovered ten pages of errors (not errors of interpretaion, but errors pertaining to what was actually in the text, meanings of words, representations of scientific theories, and faulty logic.)If I could come up with that, I found it hard to be believe that all the top dogs at HQ couldn't find even one thing wrong with anything that Martindale taught. Martindale's pronouncements as well, like "The Word is over the world", and we are entering into the "promised land of the prevailing Word" were still being acted upon as if they were revelation from God. I asked a lot of people questions: my wife didn't want to discuss my doubts, so I went to our HFC. He didn't know anything. Eventually I talked directly with John Reynolds, who referred me back to my Region Coordinator, T*m H******s, who supposedly would be able to answer my questions, since he would be teaching WayAP live in my home town. TH insisted that he did not need to check out anything for himself since the Trustees had okayed it, which was good enough for him. Shortly thereafter I sat through his (TH's) live version of WayAP, which was doctrinally identical to Martindale's. There was no deviation from the syllabus. No doctrinal changes. Shortly thereafter I was thrown out of twi for "believing that the Trustees were leading the ministry in the wrong direction". They used my own honest questions against me. So much for questioning Oakspear In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is [This message was edited by Oakspear on October 24, 2002 at 20:55.]
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