Too Gray Now

Ex and all: With all due respect, and I mean that, I do not plan to explain my spiritual beliefs. Heck, I would probably have to start my own thread... and I simply do not have the time to devote to that sort of forum. People would feel ignored. That would never be my intention.

But Dear, EX: Do you really think that 9th corps would be so "unwise" as to slam the door on a member of the illuminati...??? Hmmmm? That would be like... like... serving full size mints to VPW, handing him a filtered Kool and say, "Here ya go, Vic!", or like telling LCM he looked fat in his tights as a dancer , or telling Joe C. that his video color stinks because he can't white balance a camera correctly... All of these things would result in something stranger than waking up in bed with a horse's head... It would have been suicide to mention or joke about such things. I can joke about my illuminteeee connection now. I got out of that too. I keep the EYE for the smae reaon I still wear my WOW button whenever I go to Waffle House. Just for old times sake.

I went. But when I showed up at the door with my 11th Corps name tag on, they slammed the GD door in my face!! Now how is that for GD Christian etiquette??? Shoot... I got more 9th corps in my little finger... (Oh, wait a min. Karmic was using that line, too. Sorry karmic.)

Ginger> I picked Too Gray Now because I am old enough to know better than fall into another mass movement/cult type thing... I also stopped by the GS cafe because I wanted to see if anyone was sharing any of the kind of stuff that I believe, now. All I can say about that is "no". I am way... on a different page than most people here... so much so, I don't bring up what my spiritual beliefs are now. I also stopped into these forums and threads to make sure I was "over it"... and did not still have any twinges of remorse or regrets still lurking. If I found any, I could deal with it once and for all (or so I thought)... "Gonna wash that ministry right out of my hair... " keep whistling South Pacific. The avatar was Tom Strange's idea. Sort of a joke, really. Just an "Eye" for an "I".

Hey Tom> I'll assume my old job of RV pumping... sure have missed all that time under leaky holding tanks… backed up toilets, flies that threaten to carry you away… all that truly good sprutchell stuff. Howard Allen once asked me if I preferred playing my saxophone on stage to driving the "honey wagon"... I tried to come up with something sprutchell to say... and said... "Well, that's kind of hard to say… since they BOTH take my breath away!" He laughed... pretty hard. That is when I knew he was not very sprutchell, either. Laughing at stupid poop jokes!!! That is when I knew I was trustee material.

Australia is not just farther than Texas... it RIVALS Texas in terms of thinking the world revolves around their part of it... Did you know that all of the globes in the schoolrooms in Australia have The South Pole On TOP!!@#$$%^&** BUT, why not. I mean the world is in SPACE... and there is no "up" or "down" in space. This all could have been settled once and for all if the director for the moon landing movie had just read his script more closely. When they were on the set filiming the moon landing (like TomStrange talked about), someone forgot the "THIS END UP" sticker that is CLEARLY visible from airplanes when flying over Canada. Some one should tell them that the "Land Down Under" is not Canada... Just fly over Ungava Bay and you'ss see the sticker. It is about 35 miles long with an arrow pointing to Santa's house.

Mission Impossible... you mean getting together enough for manifestations when it is just you and the wife and she is fast asleep?? To answer your question, I chose this avitar because I look a lot like this guy... from Mission Impossible. And also because I had manifestations with nobody else there. Have done it hundreds of times! WOW! I feel so much better after getting that off my chest!! Do you have any idea how heavy that burden was after all these years? I mean it is IMPOSSIBLE to have manifestations ALONE.... RIGHT??? BUT I DID IT!! It must have been "feenomina" and I didn't want to make a doctirne of it... but God told me to tell me... (heck, what am I tellin you for?). It really changes your whole outlook if there is nobody else there; like telling jokes in front of the mirror, singing in the shower, talking to yourself... Anybody else out there need to CONFESS their sinful use (or abuse) of the manifestations???... as the saying goes... confession is good for the sole... or is that "Your soles need a new set of Vibrams before you can go to confession".

Sunesis: So you were a staffer... hmmm. I probably worked for you sometime. Who knows. I used to volunteer a lot... and worked a lot of other projects than just my corps jobs. I think I liked doing different things. I probably thought that I got extra brownie points with God, too. Building up rewards and all. Which reminds me of a story... The numerical size of the 11th. was sort of like what Kruschev said... "There is a QUALITITY that only quantity ALONE can achieve." This was evidenced the time we had to move the grand piano from the chapel to kenyon auditorium. We must have had 35 guys carrying this priceless piano. It was awkward getting it off the truck, but we didn't drop it. Almost did, once. When some of the guys thought that Steve Un. said "Drop it", when he actually said, "Don't drop it". That was interesting. I about broke my knee when that thing came down fast... but it was just the bodies of about 8 of us who were trapped that kept it from falling. I gave up volunteering in general after that.

And I don't mean help each other by hitting over the head with the Bible, or throwing a tape series in their faces, either. People don't WANT THAT kind of help. We all should have a natural and healthy aversion to anyone who seems to have it all figured out. Frankly, I have stopped posting serious things for the most part. I got the sense that many people on these boards don't get a lot of the entertainment that I get out of just plain everyday living. Thought I would try and lighten the load. Speread some cheer... rather than incite trouble. I don't think most people want to pee in other people's cheerios, on purpose but often end up doing it. Those that seem to have it figured out and are here to push their KNOWLEDGE angle, all too often end up marking their territory like a dog. Whizz, Whizz, Whizz. Then they think they have done their knowledge-God a true service by cramming something up someone's .... you get the idea. We see this sort of "UP-Your's !!" attitude and mentality out of many posters. (John Lynn and John Wayne not excluded). So... how bout it... a forum for helping rather than Whizzing on people... that could be the "FEEL" of the 11th corpse area. Any taker's? (John Lynn is invited if he can keep his doctrinal diapers on and not start "leaking" condecending knowledge).

Can we please get something going here...??!! How about it 11th... I have an idea, why don't we start a match making service for mis-matched 11th corpse? People need jobs, housing, partners... it is like the movie Ground Hog Day for some people. We should help each other get off these go-arounds.

What a BEE UU TEE FULL Pontiffette she makes!... (Actually sounds a little like something you put over dirty rice and have with crawfish pie)

HHEEYY 11TH !! HHEEYY 11TH !! its kinda quiet in here. maybe i should be whisperin' instead of shoutin'. don't wanna wake anyone 'case their sleepin' On a serious note... I just came back from the National Meeting of the American Council of the Blind. Some great people, there! Many of them are very well educated and have gerat senses of humor. For me it was REAL growth... I sent several days with them and NEVER ONCE, felt even a twinge of condemnation for not laying hands on someone and trying to "make something happen". That sort of group in the past would have sent me into "healing mode"... But not know. Some would not think that is growth... more like backsliding; but believe me, it is growth to be freed from the constant guesswork of trying to determine who had the believeing to be healed. Still would like to see 'em all healed... but I don't have all the answers anymore... and it is better that way.

Oh .... BTW, does anyone know the whereabouts of Sue Lohman? She was more fun when she was not trying to be... than most people were... when they wanted to be.

EX>> Ex for President !@#$ Oh My G..! You can't be president if you do not have a board of crustees. Let's see, Michael Kuwalik(sp?) could be your Howwie Allen, and... Sue Lohman could be your Vice P... and we on this site could be your first corpse. Lemme go figure out someone to annoynt (mispelling intentional) you with Salt and Olive oil.. someone that ALMOST became a heavy REV form the 9th... someone like... frick... I don't know. This isn't even my corpse! N.I.K.>> As for cookie cutter people... that is OK with me as long as every cookie is different and special. What do you think TOM>> We would need to get EX a fish hat, because there would be no unifying W.O.G. that any of us could agree on any more... so we would need an excathedra-type ruler. She seems like she could pull it off, to me.

My experience with PL, was that she would TRY and pierce your heart and then see if bled a spiritual color. Not a fun process... but she hated Wayworld... she loved the real deal. No major defense here... just built on my personal time. And DOT>>> I gotta go out of town for a week.. would like to know who you are too... Didn't want to put this on the 9th thread, since we were not 9th.

TomStranger and Mr. Balboa (aka... rocky) I can see from yours posts, Tom, you were a special child... one filled with so much promise, so much wit, so much... well... Lo Shanta! Me thinks like yous thinks… we may need the EX poysen - who ever she may be - to get us out of this quandary of the true meaning of "Seeta". I think thou hast correctly identified that it is probably not oral sex. (Damn!?.*&^%$) Thou art right in thine heart that we shouldest not offend the sistern... (certainly not someone that posts more than times than my heart meats per min…. he he.. Just kidding EX oh well...) Thou hast made my week and me weak. I have laughed until mine eyes have hurt.. (THANKS) and now, it giveth me great heaviness to say, I must be about my Boss's business, or I shall be only fit for the god of fire that lives in the unemployment line. And ROCKY>>> Honest to god.. do you think this TomStrange guy has his waffle pattern right??? He seems a little unstable to me. I mean… on acid for 30 years... ??? that has to do something to ya!? Maybe we should prescribe a friendly dose of Baking Soda for old Tom. Something to counteract that damn acid.... He could be much more effervescent.

Well, Vickles, I and the wife were 11th the whole way. Now I understand your avatar - that jolly clown you use... that is you trying to get the gas out! You can do anything in a clown costume and get a way with it, including pass gas. To answer your question, I think it was the food. Remember John Lynn talking at lunch about how men should not stand at the urinal and fart... we should go into the stalls, close the door, "Let-her-rip" and then come out. He said it would be less offensive. All the guys at our table busted out laughing... Less offensive, maybe... but way TOO stupid to think that any guy would do it... besides, we were real men. And real men fart anywhere they please. Heck, just holding it in till we got to the urinal was a total act of love and consideration. Everyone knows that!

You gotta yell "Lo shanta?" I never knew that. I mean, before I ever lit a fuse, I would lick my lips, get real natural, just like I was going to speak in English... and then I'd shout... "Run AWAY!" just like they did in the Full Monty Python movie where they clicked such a lovely pair of coconuts together. But TomS, tell me, what happens if you say the middle of the phrase first... "Mo la ka seeta". I mean the chant starts with and ends with the same words, "Lo shanta". Maybe that is what Lo Shanta means.... "Fire in the hole!" and is a reference to the fire god MOLLACK and all we got to figure out is "seeta". Somehow, this ALL ties in to Monty the Full Python... I mean how could it not??? A SERPENT, a FIRE GOD, FIRE IN THE HOLE, Maybe Seeta means "I fart in your general direction" or "its only a flesh wound"... or the all time favorite, "... and then comes the oral sex". I was thinking of going to buy some fire crackers, but SEETA... "Maybe I could stay a BIT longer"!

Hi, DOT.... I am sneaking back in here... hopefully EX won't reprove me and make me go back to the 9th corps thread. They just needed someone that was junior corps to boss around. I got to play that token part. But it is funny over there... if you are looking for funny and I am; from time to time. So how do we spice up the Ole snake eye page, hmmm? Offer free cooking lessons as a prize for the funniest TRUE story? Or start a set of posts... titled My Funniest Day in Residence... sort of thing. Could include one of those famous "You have a fire in your trash can... what are you gonna do?" incidents. We were swapping LEAD stories on the 9th's thread. But I defer to you old time GSrs.

Mike: I think it is time for me to make my feet less dusty and leave you to your own devices. In your earlier post to me, you said..." So your mind is made up. Regardless of what ANY person could possibly say... or ANY facts could possibly prove. Before I Go in peace, honestly... consider this... please.... You could benefit from professional help. You exhibit many of the characteristics of a person with delusional disorder? people that believe something in spite of the facts or reject the notion that third party validation of their beliefs would be expected, if based upon truth. You do not appear to be troubled with Schizophrenia... (a stronger disorder which often embraces truely bizzare delusions)... but that should be for a professional to decide. My guess is you will not seek help. That saddens me. You will probably throw this post back in my face, like most delusional people... your responses are very predictable when confronted with an opportunity to validate your beliefs rahter than simply shout them like a street preacher.

Mike: I apologize for my post to you. I assumed you could read content and not words. It has prompted only my words thrown back at me, with no consideration for my ideas that this is the administration of the spirit not the letter (PFAL or otherwise) and life is about Christ, not VPW. Your prompt response tells me that you are not a man of consideration. I have read your posts, for several months. And yet you respond to me as if I my IDEAS (not word fights) are nothing? you never responded. I am sorry I posted to you. I have no agenda. Just Ideas... which you eviscerated into mere words? no engagement on the points of Jesus Christ I raised which ANY 8th grader would have recognized as CENTRAL. You missed it. All of it. Sorry I posted. I thought you might see Christ instead of VPW. I was wrong for now.

Hey Mike. I am rather new to the GS café, but I have seen and read your posts with genuine interest. It seems as though you have devised a scheme where Dr. Wierwille?s teachings and works and very words? have become elevated to the place of scripture. (Such ?man-worship? is not uncommon among men who respect those that helped them.) I may be presumptuous in this conclusion, but it is what I gathered from your many posts. You are grateful and desiring that same anchor for your soul. PFAL is it for you. But I say, the spirit is it for all of us. Let me explain. In the first place, Dr. Weirwille was just a man? he was not the third Adam. Dr. said that if the scriptures taught something different than he did? then believe the scriptures. In fact, the scriptures do teach many things contrary to PFAL or VPW... not that that makes Dr. a whacko? it PROVES he was a man, which apparently he ALREADY thought when he made that statement in PFAL. He had issues. Like most men. He had moments of brilliance, like some men? but in the end, he DIED and stayed DEAD? which is not unlike the first Adam? but very different than second Adam. This simply means in the END, he had more in common with the first than the second. Do you honestly think that a DEAD man, with words written in stone? (regardless of their brilliance or personal value to any of us) is the FUTURE of THE church???? THE way out for all? Before you answer, consider the following: Jesus? you know the man?. whom God raised from the dead after 3 days and 3 nights (not VPW), said he would send his SPIRIT after he left his disciples (not the printing press, and certainly not a Wollensak reel-to-reel tape of PFAL - for god?s sake), and that THIS spirit would be THE method of teaching us about him for it would not speak of itself? rather about him? (Not VP? we are talking Jesus, here). This is the administration of the LIFE of the SPIRIT?. not the letter? not the video? not the reel-to-reel recording of DEAD men? PFAL had a shelf life? like manna? and now it stinketh. It served its purpose. It should prove to us, that there is NO man of God for this time or any other time than Jesus Christ. I respectfully ask that you consider these words as from my heart. From my spirit. I thank God for TWI in many ways... I would have been dead without it. But, it is now like old chicken in the fridge after 3 weeks... it needs to go. All of it. Learn. Change. Create. Live. Leave the dead men alone.... they deserve it.

You know... Ex... You may have ALREADY reproved me for the same thing back when we were in residence. Hmmmm. .... your reproof has a familiar number of syllables in it…. Are you a nurse by any chance?

TomStrange Yup. you Kojack-ed that one, perfectly! I got them from the LEAD staff house when I ran out of clean underware due to the protoza. I had to try and disguise myself at the house and make 'em think I was STAFF just so I could use the bathroom.

Hey DOT... I've been over on the 9th corps page even though me and the little woman were 11th. all the way...we were, SNAKE-EYE corps, just like you. That handle had a nice ring to it, better than Bullinger's idea of what 11 stood for! It's been fun readin' their posts over there. Some pretty funny stuff. We oughtta get this page cranked up a notch! There were some fun times. It wasn't all about sex, plagiarism, and getting REPROVED, and all the junk. Some of it was VERY funny. Like Sue Caro_ _ _ _ _. What a funny woman!