OldSkool

Great post and thanks! I disagree with her findings because I feel love is something we are given. We are given the ability to express human love by God and we the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the spirit he has given us..moving onwards here... This paragraph is thought provoking for me. You know a lot of the issues Im dealing with as far as PTSD or even CPTSD in my case and a lot of this makes sense to me. So much of our disposition has been influenced by our verious environments through different seasons of life. Ive had to learn so many things because of my extremely dysfunctional upbringing. Ive had to learn how to love and how to trust and it's in the context of setting boundaries to help navigate relationships. But I feel for most people love is learned by example and taught primarily in the home. but love is something we are given...the question is do we know what to do with love and are we capable of expressing love once we experience it.

Dont wait on me, Im not really participating in this conversation because I have addressed you several times with points of consideration that youve ignored....talking with you in this context is like clapping with one hand...its all about you and Im not into feeding narcissisism. Most everyone of your posts are condescending and your choice of words indicate a disdain for people here that you have a prejudice against folks here because we reject your false prophet. So, again, don't wait on me....carry on sir.! Peace.

So in order to love somebody with agape love that is hungry, physically starving to death then to love them I should do their will...I mean God forbid if their will is to rob a bank so they don't starve...IGod forbid I would love them by giving them food and shelter or a job or whatever would actually help them and demonstrate God's agape love which is expressed as giving...so do I love peoples will and words when those will and words are sinful and contrary to God's will?

You are asking questions and then providing answers that dont fit for me. You really love someone deeply by giving and sharing one's life with them. By providing what they need and accepting what they provide in return. Youve accepted good words and fair speeches as gospel so you cannot see beyond those words. The most important thing about someone I love? Well that depends on the person/entity, the scenario, and the nature of the relationship. The thing I love most about God is expressed in John 3:16. That God so loved the World that he gave his only begotten son. So the thing I love about God the most is that he gave of himself and that Jesus Christ was the perfect passover for the sins of man. Jesus Christ is not the Bible. The Bible is not Jesus Christ...the Bible can never take the place of Jesus Christ. Thats my final answers before you come in telling me my answers are wrond.

https://www.ethiopianorthodox.org/english/canonical/books.html

I agree. The concept that we have a Bible and that Bible contains all the holy books we ever need is blatant error. There are various and sundry canons all over the earth. There are books that have been excluded from the Biblical canon we use in America that are scripture. 1 Enoch, Jubilees, and Jasher come to mind immediately but there are others as well. So to say that our western Canon is the absolute Word of God is absolute error. I left a link for those who would like to read more on the Ethiopic Canon and Im leaving a list of books in their Bible... https://www.euclid.int/papers/Anke Wanger - Canon in the EOTC.pdf Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy Joshua Judges Ruth I Samuel II Samuel I Kings II Kings I Chronicles II Chronicles (incl. the Prayer of Manasseh) Jubilees Enoch I Ezra[4] II Ezra[4] Ezra Sutuel[4] Tobit Judith Esther I Meqabyan II Meqabyan III Meqabyan (Similarly named, but not the same as the four Greek Books of the Maccabees. ) Job Psalms Messalë (Proverbs ch 1–24) Tägsas (“Reproof”; Proverbs ch 25–31) Wisdom of Solomon Ecclesiastes Song of Songs Isaiah Jeremiah Lamentations Letter of Jeremiah Baruch 4 Baruch Ezekiel Daniel Hosea Amos Micah Joel Obadiah Jonah Nahum (or Nahium) Habakkuk Zephaniah Haggai Zechariah Malachi Sirach Josippon Matthew Mark Luke John Acts Romans I Corinthians II Corinthians Galatians Ephesians Philippians Colossians I Thessalonians II Thessalonians I Timothy II Timothy Titus Philemon Hebrews I Peter II Peter I John II John III John James Jude Revelation Sinodos Ser`atä Seyon (30 canons) Te’ezaz (71 canons) Gessew (56 canons) Abtelis (81 canons) I-II Covenant Ethiopic Clement[5] Ethiopic Didascalia[5]

Awesome perspective, thank you Sir!

Didn't know I couldn't see light or feel love...

I thought God is love, spirit and light so now hes print on a page? Not!

Careful, your contradicting wierwille the great with actual, verfiable history...so wierwille mustve been right..

That in itself is questionable because it's written in plain English I received deliverance of all things Wierwille...your letting a false prophet define scripture for you.

Try reading a Bible

My apologies, I thought we had veered off into the twilight zone...which isnt to be unexpected....

Its summer.

I think its just that music and musical tastes are very subjective. Your not wrong for enjoying the music and production for AOS, nothing wrong with that. It's just that if you look at it objectively and compare art to art AOS is pretty lacking in many areas. But again, you like it so enjoy! Nobody can say thats not right or even wrong for you really. Personally, I have some very off beat musical tastes that are all over the road from genre to genre that most people would not enjoy. But thats me and this is Mike. So peace!

Good gosh this crap is corny on an entire nother level...greasy grief...think if I was washing windows to it on a high rise I'd probably take the express route down...

Ive learned to become the same way over the years. Its interesting that when you look into things a bit closer regarding VPW his entire premise was complete BS. That scripture was in some sort of unintelligible mess and he needed to straighten it out...talk about hyper-arrogance. Basically, the translators were scholars and not fake scholars like VPW. That doesnt make the translators or the translations or versions perfect but God needed no help from VPW, The Matthews Bible is the Tyndale Bible with the Old Testament completed by one of Tyndale's understudies after Tyndale was martyred, using Tyndale's notes and also the books that Tyndale had translated at the time of his death. I value it more than the AV1611 which has it's own cultic following that I am careful to avoid like the plague...yes there really is a AV1611 only movement out there and...ya...

I go the opposite route since many modern translations have some pretty heavy error, deletions, word changes, etc...I use the older versions...a good case in point is to look at 2 Thess 2:3 in the Geneva Bible and Matthews Bible because they both translate falling away as a departing first, which is a game changer. https://textusreceptusbibles.com/Parallel/53002001/KJV1611/GNV/MAT

Well consider me old fashioned cause I have no desire to engage in centuries old exercise in mental masturbation when the answer is plain and simple but ignored.

No there is nothing to stop you except scripture absolutely forbids this sort of thing. But what do you and VPW care about that? No concern...entire Bibles have been rewritten, but I hope you are prepared to take your place amongst those who are God's enemies. You have chosen your company.

Yessir.

Well, you realize this is like investigating if oxygen is to be breathed or not...

There is nothing to untangle. Just open it and read it. The Bible is pretty straightforward...the so called research was necessary for the Bible to say what victor paul wierwille wanted it to say thus his phony research.

Thanks for posting that brochure....boy what a shameless fluff piece pushing PFLAPPY...Walter's comment is so very revealing and I think we see from the beginning that VPW was busy setting himself up as some great one...sad.