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Raf

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  1. See, that's my problem. If it's history, it's not credible and the only reason to discuss it is politics.

    If we're talking about doctrine, there's really nothing debatable about it. Yeah, God said this land is your land. Doctrinally. But history can't even document the existence of Abraham, never mind God. And if we're going to allow divine real estate transactions to determine land rights, there are probably a handful of Native American believers in the Great Spirit who have a problem or two with our current state borders.

    Oh, but THEIR Great Spirit is not God. Got it.

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  2. I can't.

    To me, even if you remove current politics from it, you get the following question:

    "Can a nation claim land on the legal grounds that an Imaginary Being granted the land to an Imaginary Ancestor, sealed by self-mutilation at a date and time witnessed by no one but recorded for posterity after the fact by people living better than a thousand years later?

    Pray tell, why should anyone who DOESN'T worship this god be bound by this bequest?

  3. The ex-Muslim atheist Ayaan Hirsi Ali recently announced her conversion to Christianity.

    Her conversion story is steeped in politics, so it's impossible to discuss her story without discussing politics.

    Ground rules: The validity of her political views are off limits. The validity of her religious views are.

    Why I am now a Christian - UnHerd

    I have not read her essay, nor have I listened to the video in the o.p. I will not comment until I do one or the other, preferably both.

    In case you were wondering why I'm so quiet.

    :)

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