Raf

Shaz, Thanks for the idea. Let's call this person Quandry. Or Quandary, if you're feeling particularly grammatical. :) Raf

Sudo, That's exactly right. "I'm sorry I said what I think out loud."

It's The Blues Brothers The dog is from Blue's Clues.

Can be got? Sheesh. If I were a grammar professor, I'd... Wait, I am a grammar professor! Oh no! Now everyone knows I'm bluffing!

A friend asked me to post this. I'm sure this friend will be reading, and I'll pass along any replies. **** I am in a quandry..... I have to tell my teens (14 and 17 yers old)about the dark side of TWI. I left TWI within the past few months, but they are still involved (yet not fully committed) along with my spouse (also not fully committed). I have been in much communion with the Father about how to tell my teens. I know I cannot express on this post all the stuff that goes through my heart regarding this issue. Please allow me space to sort some of these thoughts. I appreciate any insight/guidance anyone has. Please understand that I am trying to look at this from their point of view. What might they think? (Side note: I left TWI after 4 to 5 years of contemplation and 1-1/2 years after finding GSC. I did not leave because of GSC. I read the stories. Some I believed and some I really wondered about. Then I told myself, that even if these were true TWI had changed. Any organization made of people will have sh** happen. But the hole in my sole grew bigger this past year to the point that it was effecting my kids...and that's when I left. My kids' experiences with TWI have been good. They were not acutely aware of M & A. I shielded them from much of LCM's rantings. They know my spouse & I do not agree with TWI debt teachings and have questioned Eve's garden sin. They know I don't believe TWI is THE household of God. I have taught them to the best of my ability to be honest with their emotions...to allow themselves to feel...to not stuff down & suppress what they feel.) 'Well, what about all the abuse that has gone on? There are no words sufficient to fully communicate the humiliation and torment that some folks have experienced. Yet these incidents were in the past. People change. God is merciful. Life goes on. TWI has "changed." The people in TWI we have been involved with are good people. Perhaps the folks abused are exagerrating. If we turn from TWI aren't we acting judgmentally & harshly...just to leave our fellowship and friends?' My heart breaks to try to communicate what I am trying to figure out. I'm just going to go back and forth with my thoughts and see if anyone out there can pick up on and maybe better disentangle the web in my mind. I think, to just be honest with them. Tell them what I've heard and read here. Tell them what I first heard in 1986(?) from the John Lynn tapes and how I came to my decision then to continue to stand with TWI. Do I tell them that RFR & DM "might" be lesbians? "Might be" is not enough. People are innocent until proven guilty. What about the fact the TWI has never offered any closure to the allegations, never offered counsel to abuse victims? Do I KNOW that D. M**nyh*n knew what was happening and covered for LCM? Do I KNOW that? I have to admit that I don't know that. Such churning in the soul....I wish I were Yoda.

That's why I said "sort of," Sudo. I thought the apology was positively Clitnonesque. Downright offensive, if you ask me.

My favorite reproof (although I'm not sure it's silly) is when a believer said to me, "See? Worked like a charm!" To which I replied, "Charms don't work!!" :)

As delightful as I find that photo, I don't think it's appropriate for this site.

I think you owe someone a cup of CAWFEE!!!

It is.

Thankya, George. Feel free to confirm if someone else gets it, since you obviously did.

You can stay. And you can have your ultra sweetened cup of vaguely coffee-flavored beverage. It's just not coffee. :)

He sort of apologized on Jan. 12.

:)

Everytime I get in there, it's empty. I'm starting to take it personally. :)

My old boss used to say, "Get me a cup of coffee. And I want COFFEE! I don't want coffee-flavored milk!" Black. No sugar.

Ah, The Last Action Hero

In the original post on this thread, Hope R said something that makes a lot of sense. We were arguing (actually, politely discussing) on another thread WHEN TWI-2 really began, with some of us arguing the reading of POP while others saying about 1993. I think it makes a great deal of sense to say that TWI-2 was actually in between those two dates, and what started in 1993 was TWI-3. That makes a lot more sense to me. TWI-1 ends with the death of Wierwille TWI-2 from Wierwille's death until 1993 TWI-3 from 1993 until The Brow's resignation TWI-4 from RFR's installation to now.

I can see it now, "Do you, Abigail, take verbalkaisersushikintmanofathousandscreenna..." "I do, already!" :) Congrats, guys.

Ok, this time I'm not kidding. I can only see the second picture.

Ooh. Forgot this one. Lots of fun and games going on (at least, I hope it's fun). Let's see: Shirley Jones was in The Music Man with Robert Preston Preston was in Victor/Victoria with John Rhys Davies Rhys was in King Solomon's Mines with Sharon Stone Stone was in Hard to Kill with Steven Segal Now let's try a new one: Mariah Carey/Judy Garland

Woah! That is an EXCELLENT movie pictionary.

It may BE good. Heck, it may be delicious. What it ain't is coffee. I do have one correction, though. It's four words, not three. "Regular coffee, two sugars" is okay.

It grossed $5.7 million? Dude!