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Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

Just a note: that point is speculation. Educated, reasonable speculation, but speculation nonetheless. It's never been established that this was one of TWI's demands. That doesn't mean I don't believe it. But there it is.

Steve, You have so many valid and important criticisms of CES, many of which have given me great pause and have me wondering how well I understand God's Word. It's a shame to see you ranting about something so inconsequential as the word "partner." A partner is someone you team up with to get the job done. I am not aware of CES changing anything you've brought up.

We'll let it slide, but in the future, you have to rely on your memory (see opening post). Brad Dourif was also in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I forget if he got an Oscar for it - he was that good.

Can I perform the ceremony? We can get littlehawk to be in charge of beverages!

Nonsense. Show me ONE PERSON who is deceived about the meaning of "partnership" in the CES partnership plan, and I MAY reconsider your point (after administering an IQ test to your find).

John Ritter Bride of Chucky Brad Dourif Hope, I was kidding. See?

Was Bette Midler in "Hope R." I don't remember that movie. Ruthless People Judge Reinhold Beverly Hills Cop

I didn't think he lurked here, but I do think Jeff and some other CES types do, so it doesn't surprise me that it got back to him. What I'd like to know is, if Mark is president of CES/STFI, why was JAL the one to try to smooth things over? Not that it's any of my business, but I'd like to know. Tzaia, I'm impressed by the class you've shown.

If there's a contention between them, it would be appropriate that the first (renewed) attempt to settle it would be private. I presume Tzaia's previous attempts to settle it did not meet with her satisfaction. I'd rather have him e-mail her privately than have him bully onto this forum and accuse her of being a disgruntled liar.

Someone took his time answering that one... This is the game that never ends...

Mark Harmon The Presidio Meg Ryan

We leave off at Passion Fish

Yep. The only ones not in the Broadway cast are Will Ferrell (as the guy who writes Springtime for Hitler) and Uma Thurman as Ula (for the name alone it's inspired casting).

Gene Hackman No Way Out Kevin Costner

It's called "partnership" because they want donors to feel that they're part of what CES is doing. The importance on their end is that they can have a much easier time making budgets if they have an idea of how much income will be coming in. Since they do NOT teach tithing and don't feel they can coerce donations, they came up with something whereby donors call the shots of when and how much they'll contribute. (These explanations of mine look at the non-profit organization as a business). I should note that my contributions to CES, while regular, don't amount to a whole heckuva lot of money. I would have to give the same amount monthly for 15 years to match ONE of my biweekly paychecks.

Steve, For heaven's sake, CES partnership is not entering into a legal relationship. Chill out. What I can do as a "partner" if they continue to teach something I think is hurtful to the body is stop giving. I have no illusions that I am a "partner" of CES in the sense that you describe. "Cash cows" is a pretty bitter way of saying "free-will regular donors." As a member of a non-profit board, I can tell you that the partnership program is an innovative way of ensuring cash flow, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. The United Way takes money out of my paycheck every two weeks. It's the exact same principle. I don't review every decision they make, and the extent of my involvement with them is I can choose to stop giving any time I want to. They don't call it a Partnership Plan, but it's the exact same thing: a regularly scheduled contribution that the non-profit board can rely upon during budgeting. WordWolf: best as I can tell, Wierwille's antitrinitarianism falls under the definition of Socinianism, which is, oddly, not on the list.

Spoken like someone who's never been mugged. :)--> Money. Moneymoneymoneymoney.

Anyone free for a late lunch or early dinner Sunday in Dallas? My flight leaves from DFW at 6:49 p.m., so I'm figuring a 3 p.m. meet? And I'm in New York the following weekend.

I have a bad peeling about this.

Enemies? What is this? Enemies? You are taking yourself WAY too seriously, Penta Man.

Forrest Gump Gary Sinise Ransom

Thanks for the gender correction. I fixed it.

Argh! I can't tell if Steve did his edit first or if outandabout filed her entry first. We're going to have to take this to the Florida Supreme Court, which rules in favor of outandabout, but Steve challenges and it goes before the US Supreme Court. In a 5-4 decision, the court rules that the available evidence is in Steve's favor and the Florida Supreme Court can go bite it. Steve wins (although some will always question the legitimacy of his victory). Last valid entry: Raiders of the Lost Ark Karen Allen Animal House

tonto was faster we leave off at Harrison Ford