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Both Fair and Graham are listed as contributors to Billy Falcon's mainstream CD's. Billy Falcon

Kit, The name of the movie is "Frequency." Fascinating film. Dennis Quaid plays his father. It's a terrific twist on the time travel genre. An unusual occurrence of the aurora borealis opens up a communication via ham radio between a NYC cop (Cazaviel) in 1999 and his father (Quaid), a NYC firefighter in 1969. Junior must decide whether (and how) to warn his father about dad's impending, preventable death. And dad has to decide whether to believe a voice on the other end of the radio who claims to be his grown up son. One major key: they're both Mets fans. Excellent, excellent movie. Well acted, nicely scripted, and fun.

Wow. I forgot about this thread. Thanks Kit.

Friggin aliens.

"You're scary sometimes. You know that, don't you? Brilliant. But scary."

What happens when the refresh rate is too fast?

I've heard today is the day. Yup, that's what I've heard.

I'll do that tonight (I just got into work). I disabled Messenger (I think) but I couldn't find that other program, the NVidia one. I also changed the monitor refresh rate, although I can't imagine what that does.

I'm not using a stopwatch, so I don't know for sure. I use broadband.

You know, once I got the AIM turned off, startup has been a lot easier. I kept Zone Alarm, but I haven't even revisited this thread to implement some of these neat ideas. I'll try a few tonight.

And if you park your car in your living room with a big screen tv and really loud speakers, it'll almost be like a drive-in. This is a thread about drive ins, right? What's the plural of drive in? Should it be drives in?

Eradication as a form of theological debate. Interesting.

You can get a DVD/VHS player for less than $100 if you shop around, and certainly for less than $200.

I'll have to rent The Two Towers, as I am holding out for the extended DVD release in November. As for drive-ins, I think I'll head to one this weekend. Should be fun. Maybe I'll be able to catch Freddy v. Jason!

Jeff, There's no reason to regret starting this thread. I certainly haven't meant to imply any kind of CES "conspiracy" behind the thread or the new web site. Conspiracy implies secrecy, and I don't see anything secretive about the connection between biblicalunitarian.com and CES.

CES most definitely embraces what VPW taught: see the web site that is the subject of this thread: Biblical Unitarian CES is promoting this site on its Web page and in mailings, and the site itself makes numerous references to CES materials. As for Mormons: most of mainstream Christianity identifies Jesus with Jehovah. I hesitate to say "all" only because I was taught it grade school never to use absolutes. Yes, I see the irony.

Jehovah's Witnesses definitely follow the Arian model (and they take the extra step of concluding that Jesus Christ and the archangel Michael are one and the same). Wouldn't that be a fun book: "Jesus Christ Is Not Michael." Aside from Wierwille, I know only of Anthony Buzzard continuing with the Socinian model. I have no idea how large "his" following is (I think it's called Reformation Ministries or something).

Did I imply otherwise? I thought I said the same thing: Wierwille could not adopt the Arian model because it affirms Christ's pre-birth existence. On a casual reading, I agree that Socinianism is the model Wierwille appears to have followed.

CES is promoting the Biblical Unitarian page and soliciting contributions for it on the CES home page.

I understand Wierwille's dilemma, though, Trefor. Once you've excluded Jesus as God, then you run into the trouble of Hebrews 1, in which he is explicitly excluded as an angel. If he's not God, and he's not an angel, then his existence began at birth. Had to. So the verses you cite become, in Wierwille's eyes (and my own), the difficult verses that must be interpreted in light of the clear. I'm not saying I can answer every question (or any question for that matter), but I can see very clearly why Wierwille would have to ditch the Arian model for something even more antithetical to the orthodox position.

I've heard this too. I don't know her, but my source wasn't sure if Claudette was leaving TWI or if she ws just leaving HQ.

I don't think Jeff has to reveal his CES connection to make anyone happy, least of all me. Let me explain my thinking process. First, I contribute regularly to CES. Not a huge amount of money, but I do contribute. Secondly, when I read the title of this thread and the initial post, I honestly thought we were being referred to something new and different. While I am duly impressed with the Web site (it's much more interesting than my own), I noticed right away that it had a very distinct CES flavor. I mean, everything about it screamed CES. I don't have a problem with that. I apologize, Jeff, if it looked like I was being confrontational.

I see what you're saying Jeff. CES had nothing to do with the development or implementation of that site. Nonetheless, the person who put it together is plainly sympathetic to CES (to the extent that every link leads to notes or articles either written by CES or available through CES). That's not the same as saying "this is a CES site." But if it WAS a CES site, I can't imagine it looking very different. :)-->

What suspicion? Of course it's Jeff from CES. I guess when I saw the topic name, I thought Jeff was pointing out a new web site independent of CES or other TWI offshoots. But when you look at the site, it's got CES fingerprints all over the place. Again, not that there's anything wrong with that.

I didn't get a chance to implement any of this great advice yesterday. I'm figuring first I'll get someone to tranlsate it into English for me. :)--> But I appreciate the advice and I'll let you know how it goes when I get to it.