Lifted Up

Finally!!!

But I wonder if anyone else was looking at this at all?

Anyway...go when you can.

Thanks for the article on Jeter.

I don't see myself as 'moaning' about being a Yankee fan, but I will self examine myself to not come across like that.

Maybe bad choice of words, but I was referring to your comment about feeling lonely around here as the only Yankee fan.

I just noticed some of this "review" stuff has spilled over into Kris' blog. The writer seemed compelled to write a disclaimer first to deny his life and faith was being dictated by TWI before blaming Kris herself for the abuse that she suffered.

I can think of some interesting ways to answer this, but I do not think Kris' blog should be used as a battleground, at least I don't think she would want that. Besides, I have already given my support elsewhere on her blog.

Today, December 2nd

I know that, according to her profile, it's been over a year since she checked in. But she is well remembered here and I hope she has a wonderful day.

A few years ago, she sent me an uplifting e-mail, which she probably doesn't remember, and if she does, surely never knew its importance, together with a similar e-mail I got about the same time from another long time GSer.

If the question these hairpins ask is - Why so long to tell it?

The answer's simple - Because that's how long it took before she was ready to tell it. Get over it, read it, ignore it but geez - these people don't seem to understand they end up with egg on their face and worse in their pants when they show such low IQ and HQ.

At first I thought Excie was just doing a nice thing when she acknowledged my deprogramming as abuse. But, when I thought about it some, I realized that, probably unintentionally, she helped me understand more what you said above. Geez, I was clammed up about that event for so many years, trying to pretend it didn't happen. I couldn't, wouldn't, talk about it with anyone.

Holdovers include Harold Baines, Bert Blyleven, Andre Dawson. Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Tim Raines, Lee Smith and Alan Trammell.

Poor nice guy Dale. He got plenty of exposure in the '80s when TBS came of age with all their braves games, but he wasn't flashy enough I guess.

I had no hope. Never saw it and heard almost nothing about it except the title.

Actually, one of my "famous contacts" (see Cheranne's "Famous friends" thread) does a lot of graphic novels, and has done a great job at transferring his artistic expertise into the computer world. However, he is not too approachable and as far as I know, knows absolutely nothing about TWI.

I know one thing, that God has placed some really awsome people in my life

Yea, he started with you.

That's what ticks me off, Lifted Up - the criticism that it's been too long and it's too late to register a complaint and tell ones own side of the story. You were around, you can speak to the times and places.

yea, and there's another thing about remembering. You know how even we old folks can remember exactly what we were doing and where we were when something very traumatic happened...reference the "45 years ago" thread about the JFK assasination. There's not much in the world more traumatic than what happened to Kristen (and some others). One point of my previous post is really that, when I know from my own experience how well she remembered some of those details she recalls in her account about the day to day things that took place that year at Emporia, it establishes the certainty in my mind that the last thing her account of abuse could suffer from is fuzzy memory.

I think our resident Yankee fan might have some talents in that area (from his "My Story" thread).

I think CC wants to stay on the west coast, and am not optimistic about the Yankees getting him.

You don't even like Jeter ? I guess there's reasons to dislike anyone if you dig deep enough, but Derek's been nothing but good for the game in my opinion.

Ever since you moaned about maybe being the lone Yankee fan around, plus my reply, you should know that my yankee hating talk should all be taken with a few grains of salt. :) As a special bonus, here is an essay written a while back about Jeter by a senior research meteorologist, Chuck Doswell.

Why a Yankee Hater Loves Derek Jeter

by

Chuck Doswell

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Posted: 26 September 2005 Updated: whenever

This is my normal expression of opinion - nothing more, nothing less.

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Ask anyone who grew up in Chicago. We hate the Yankees with an undying hatred, a purple passion. In fact, if all New York sports teams lose every game from now until eternity, we still won't feel the score is settled. Fine. Now that you know where I stand, let me comment on Derek Jeter and why I think so much of him.

I watched "60 Minutes" last night, where Derek Jeter was the subject of one of their segments, with Ed Bradley doing the honors. I was expecting something different than what he turned out to be. Derek is the son of an African-American father, and and Irish-American mother. There are those who scorn such children because those with that attitude are simply racist idiots - something of a redundancy, that. May children like Derek Jeter help put the .... of racism to rest. May we all live to see an age where such irrelevancies are no longer something even worth mentioning. Derek Jeter's a man any parent should be proud of, beyond question. The more such childern exist, the better, in my book. Let the fallacies of racism die as soon as possible in the face of contrary evidence.

Derek Jeter was clearly portrayed sympathetically on the show. I don't know him and I don't know the extent to which the interview was representative of him as a real person. But what I saw makes me proud to be a member of the human race, and that doesn't happen every day, unfortunately.

First of all, he's an articulate, intelligent sports hero who apparently had a father who instilled some really important values. He doesn't do steroids, he isn't a crackhead, and has tried all his life to live up to the expectations laid on him by a caring father. Not every young man responds equally well to the lessons such a father tries to convey to his son. It says a lot about the man. Derek Jeter respected his father and his father deserved that respect, because he gave his son a sense of responsibility. In fact, his father deserves respect because he was there, living up to his responsibilities as a father, and didn't abandon his children. Sadly, it seems that many fathers have failed their sons even in this most basic sense. I admire Derek Jeter's father, as well as Derek.

Furthermore, Derek Jeter is apparently not so impressed with himself and his achievements as an athlete to be unwilling to accommodate his many fans, of all races and creeds. He signs autographs, poses for pictures, and cheerfully puts up with not having a private life. Most people can't begin to appreciate what he puts up with, and he does it with obvious gratitude for the support he receives from his fans. He's not some spoiled multimillionare jock, with an ego to match his paycheck. Again, Derek Jeter breaks the stereotype.

By being the child of an interracial marrage, he's evidently been the subject ot ignorant taunts and heckling all his life. It would be easy for such a man to be bitter about his lot in life as a result of his heritage. Instead, Derek Jeter is simply a man, and seems impervious to the racist nonsense he undoubtedly has to deal with on a regular basis. I admire the man for his attitude. He's focused on being the best athlete he can be. Winning in a team sport depends on him supporting his teammates, including Jason Giambi, the admitted stereoid user. Why? Because, he says, Giambi supports his teammates, and so deserves their support in turn. I place a big premium on loyalty, and Derek Jeter scores high in my book.

He's a man to be admired, in a sport that is wracked by scandal and various forms of bad behavior by athletes who are privileged to be playing a kid's game for a king's salary. Derek Jeter exemplifiies what we desperately want our heroes to be - he actually is a role model for our own children. He's a Yankee that I'm willing to cheer for, and that says a lot. I hope his team loses, but I hope he goes 4 for 4, with 6 RBIs and hits for the cycle. We Americans search almost desperately for heroes among the athletes we support, but usually get something far less. Derek Jeter is a man. The man, in my book, despite my being a diehard Yankee hater.

Derek Jeter is a class act. I'll even cheer for him when he comes to bat against the White Sox or Cubs. Imagine what we all could do if we could overcome our stupid, irrational prejudices. Derek Jeter has shown us the way. Can we not follow his example?

Nemo

Nautilus

Yea, like a certain Captain from another work whose name I won't mention...yet.

Wonder if anyone else is checking this out, because I have all but given the title. But, then, I had a liitle help on Mr. Hamilton...

You or anyone else know of any developments in the CC offer? I haven't seen any news but haven't been paying complete attention. I don't wanna see him become a Yankee because then there'd be a Yankee I liked.

Finally got to this...wonderful.

Life ain't always easy.

The artwork is neat. The sketches and comics remind my of one of my "famous contacts" (from Cheranne's recent thread) who got started that way, and in fact one of his movie parts actually shows him sketching. He still does that stuff, is a lot into graphic novels, and of course is involved in computer art.

I have noted this more than once on this thread, but it bears repeating in view of the mention of these reviews which question Kristen's memory. Being also in residence in the 8th corps at Emporia as she was helpd a lot when I read her account. Though I was not sexually abused, it is the several things she mentions that took place during that year that I also remember that helped me to live her experience.

And nobody had better doubt my memory...Dunno if my first corps roomie remembers, but he was raving over it after a certain recitation...

Yea, Excie, she re-lived her hell. It had to be a difficult thing to do; yet somehow, with the help of others, it evidently has been a healing experience for her (as she discussed in her second interview with Paw).

I de-boned the turkey yesterday

I wanted to do that, but my co-worker wouldn't let me touch him.

Rascal, IMO you are near the top on the list of loving people and near the bottom of the list of complainers, so I know you need what we can give, which I guess in my case is my prayers as you ask.

A good friend fairly recently suggested I was being too hard on myself. While I have no reason to believe you have that problem, just try to be sure it stays that way.

Well, since he seems to be used to being in battles and winning them, I'll pray that keeps up.

Is it time to put the pot roast on yet?

Now that I've got some sleep, I'm not so grouchy. It would be nice to hear from the Ranger, Indians, and other fans discuss their teams to balance out the Sox talk once in awhile.

Even if we Tribe fans talk about how we bugged the Yankees before blowing it against the Sox last year?

I guess it is time for next to giveaway...

“You don’t mean to say that you have any idea of the meaning of the scrawl?”

“I do,” was my desperate reply. “Look at the sentence as dictated by you.”

“Well, but it means nothing,” was the angry answer.

“Nothing if you read from left to right, but mark, if from right to left—”

“Backwards!” cried my uncle, in wild amazement. “Oh most cunning Saknussemm; and I to be such a blockhead!”

He snatched up the document, gazed at it with haggard eye, and read it out as I had done.

It read as follows:

In Sneffels Yoculis craterem kem delibat umbra Scartaris Julii intra calendas descende, audas viator, et terrestre centrum attinges. Kod feci. Arne Saknussemm

Which dog Latin being translated, reads as follows:

Descend into the crater of Yocul of Sneffels, which the shade of Scartaris caresses, before the kalends of July, audacious traveler, and you will reach the... (giveaway phrase follows)

If one were to generalize based on what I saw, it looked like red necks and republicans were Sox fans, and anyone going near NY to work were Yankee fans.

That's generalizing way too much . I'm sure I'll be hearing comments, since this is becoming more a Sox fan site than ever, at least some of those laughable trade ideas sound like stuff you read on a fan site.

Okay, I'll start them off...

Without taking sides, I know there are Sox (and Yankee) fans in many places, but somehow I have never equated red Sox territory with Republicans.

:)

I just irony-ed my blouse in readiness for my interview tomorrow. Hope that magnetic personality attracts them to me. All their defences better be down (it's with the Ministry of Defence).

You should have been fine, as long as they didn't use a magnetic pencil to draw figures on you as if you were an etch-a-sketch.

P.S. does this make you the next "Iron Lady"???

It doesn't make me think religion is for nuts; it just makes me think that too many nuts IN religion give it (and God) a bad name.

Ya know, I think this need to be said more.