Yes the lyrics are copyright material.....as long as proper credit is given I dont't see the harm in posting them
but I could be wrong, that's been known to happen a time or two
I checked the lyrics from the REO site and they do indeed say " Oh I make you live...."
I thought it was 'laugh' myself, but when I did the search I was proven wrong
The sites I go to to get lyrics have all of the proper credentials and as far as I know as long as any printed material is properly credited to the writer then there is no violation of the copyright
Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
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We are educating ourselves about the lyrics. As you can see Firebee has already learned something. Perhaps we should title the thread studying the poetry of great lyrics.
When I first started the 'Lyrics Please' thread at the old GSC, it was partly because of my love for music and what some songs 'do' for me. I tried a website to let those of you who posted a chance to hear your selected tune, but that didn't prove feasable..........hence the creation of Lyrics Please
When I finally got a new computer and logged onto this new GSC............lo and behold Excathedra renewed the old thread I started and it seems to have a life of its own. If I haven't given Ex proper thanks , allow me to do so now,
Adios, I agree, lyrics are a form of poetry, and each prose holds certain meanings to each individual. It would be a shame not to be able to communicate what someones words do for your soul at any given time. Thus the 'Lyrics Please'
thread
Now you know the rest of the story*
Thanks again my dear friend Ex for keeping this thread alive
Zix........I'm not picking on you at all and hope I haven't offended you
* these words are copyrighted under the rules Adios stated above
No offense taken, Firebee, but the problem lies in section 3 of the Fair Use provision of the Copyright law. Reproducing them in their entirety falls outside of fair use.
If you typed the entire text of a Harry Potter book into a post, even though you don't make any money off of it, you still deprive the author of the chance to make her fair profit off of it. Reproducing a paragraph or two is "fair use". Retyping the whole thing is illegal.
Even though songs are a lot shorter, they still enjoy the same protection under copyright law.
Not that I'm about to narc on anybody for doing it, I just want to make sure you realize it isn't really risk-free.
God bless!
Zix
(Geez, I listened to it carefully a couple of times, and it still sounds like "laugh"...)
I truly respect what you are saying and no, I didn't and don't take offense at your post at all.
The position that I take is that the songs posted can't be reproduced in their entirety, there is no music placed with the lyrics, and therefore no right has been infringed upon when just the lyrics are shown. The lyrics are open and fair game for reproduction as long as the writer(artist) is credited for the original work.
If words, spoken or written were really covered under a copyright law then each and every time those words are reproduced would make a legal basis for suit..........God forbid I would be sued for each word posted at this vey moment.
With my above ranting now complete I say Zix..thanks for watching my back and caring enough to share your perspective
Adios: Perhaps not. If it's old enough, it may be in the public domain.
Firebee: Not to be overly contrary, but have you considered the case where one person writes the lyrics and another writes the music? According to your logic, the lyricist would have no rights to his words unless the musician was singing them. It doesn't work like that, I'm afraid.
Go to www.harryfox.com , the site that handles most all the song licensing issues in the USA. The International Lyrics Server that used to reside at www.lyrics.ch was shut down over copyright infringement.
It seems picky, unless you're a songwriter yourself, I suppose. (Not that I am!) Do you realize you can't even sing "Happy Birthday To You" in a public place without paying a royalty to the copyright holder? That's why all those restaurants sing some insipid "happy-happy Birthday" song instead of HBTY.
A line or two, perhaps a verse, or the chorus, that's reasonable "fair use" of lyrics. The whole thing isn't.
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excathedra
Oh
Why you look so sad
tears are in your eyes
Come on and come to me, now
Don't
Be ashamed to cry
Let me see you through
Cause I've seen the dark side, too
When the night falls on you
You don't know what to do
Nothing you confess
Could make me love you less
I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
Won't let nobody hurt you
I'll stand by you
So
If you're mad, get mad
don't hold it all inside
come on and talk to me now
Hey
what you got to hide
I get angry too,
Well I'm a lot like you
When you're standing at the crossroads
And don't know which path to choose
Let me come along
Cause even if you're wrong
I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
Won't let nobody hurt you
I'll stand by you
Take me in into your darkest hour
And I'll never desert you
I'll stand by you.
And when
When the night falls on you baby
You're feelin' all alone
You won't be on your own
I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
Won't let nobody hurt you
I'll stand by you
Take me in into your darkest hour
and I'll never desert you
I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
Won't let nobody hurt you
I'll stand by you.
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REO Speedwagon
Time for me to fly
I've been around for you
I've been up and down for you
But I just can't get any relief
I've swallowed my pride for you
I've lived and lied for you
But you still make me feel like a thief
You got me stealin' your love away
Cause you never give it
Peeling the years away
And we can't relive it
Oh I make you live
And you make cry
I believe it's time for me to fly
You said we'd work it out
You said that you had no doubt
That deep down we were really in love
Oh, but I'm tired of holding on
To a feeling I know is gone
I do believe that I've had enough
I've had enough of the falseness
Of a worn out relation
Enough of the jealousy
In the entire duration
Oh I make you live
And you make me cry
I believe it's time for me to fly
{Refrain}
Time for me to fly
Oh, I've got to set myself free
Time for me to fly
And that's just how it's got to be
I know it hurts to say goodbye
But it's time for me to fly
Oh, don't you know it's...
{Refrain}
It's time for me to fly
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Um, y'all do know these lyrics are copyrighted material, right?
(And btw, it's "I make you LAUGH, you make me cry/I believe it's time for me to fly...", if memory serves.)
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i'm not gonna download them and sell them or anything
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Yes the lyrics are copyright material.....as long as proper credit is given I dont't see the harm in posting them
but I could be wrong, that's been known to happen a time or two
I checked the lyrics from the REO site and they do indeed say " Oh I make you live...."
I thought it was 'laugh' myself, but when I did the search I was proven wrong
The sites I go to to get lyrics have all of the proper credentials and as far as I know as long as any printed material is properly credited to the writer then there is no violation of the copyright
Ex.........wanna buy and trade some lyrics?
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Copyright Act
Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
(1)
the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2)
the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3)
the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4)
the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors
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We are educating ourselves about the lyrics. As you can see Firebee has already learned something. Perhaps we should title the thread studying the poetry of great lyrics.
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I had no idea you cared so much..........
When I first started the 'Lyrics Please' thread at the old GSC, it was partly because of my love for music and what some songs 'do' for me. I tried a website to let those of you who posted a chance to hear your selected tune, but that didn't prove feasable..........hence the creation of Lyrics Please
When I finally got a new computer and logged onto this new GSC............lo and behold Excathedra renewed the old thread I started and it seems to have a life of its own. If I haven't given Ex proper thanks , allow me to do so now,
Adios, I agree, lyrics are a form of poetry, and each prose holds certain meanings to each individual. It would be a shame not to be able to communicate what someones words do for your soul at any given time. Thus the 'Lyrics Please'
thread
Now you know the rest of the story*
Thanks again my dear friend Ex for keeping this thread alive
Zix........I'm not picking on you at all and hope I haven't offended you
* these words are copyrighted under the rules Adios stated above
Post away and rock on
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No offense taken, Firebee, but the problem lies in section 3 of the Fair Use provision of the Copyright law. Reproducing them in their entirety falls outside of fair use.
If you typed the entire text of a Harry Potter book into a post, even though you don't make any money off of it, you still deprive the author of the chance to make her fair profit off of it. Reproducing a paragraph or two is "fair use". Retyping the whole thing is illegal.
Even though songs are a lot shorter, they still enjoy the same protection under copyright law.
Not that I'm about to narc on anybody for doing it, I just want to make sure you realize it isn't really risk-free.
God bless!
Zix
(Geez, I listened to it carefully a couple of times, and it still sounds like "laugh"...)
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Then if I recite an entire poem written by Longfellow I would be breaking the law.
uh oh!
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I truly respect what you are saying and no, I didn't and don't take offense at your post at all.
The position that I take is that the songs posted can't be reproduced in their entirety, there is no music placed with the lyrics, and therefore no right has been infringed upon when just the lyrics are shown. The lyrics are open and fair game for reproduction as long as the writer(artist) is credited for the original work.
If words, spoken or written were really covered under a copyright law then each and every time those words are reproduced would make a legal basis for suit..........God forbid I would be sued for each word posted at this vey moment.
With my above ranting now complete I say Zix..thanks for watching my back and caring enough to share your perspective
xoxoxo to you kind sir
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Zix, please don't take this as an afront, I post these lyrics with the utmost of respect for you and all GS'ers
I HONESTLY LOVE YOU (Olivia Newton John)
Maybe I hang around here
A little more than I should
We both know I got somewhere else to go
But I got something to tell you
That I never thought I would
But I believe you really ought to know
I love you
I honestly love you
You don't have to answer
I see it in your eyes
Maybe it was better left unsaid
This is pure and simple
And you should realize
That it's coming from my heart and not my head
I'm not trying to make you feel uncomfortable
I'm not trying to make you anything at all
But this feeling doesn't come along everyday
And you shouldn't blow the chance
When you've got the chance to say
If we both were born
In another place and time
This moment might be ending in a kiss
But there you are with yours
And here I am with mine
So I guess we'll just be leaving it at this
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Adios: Perhaps not. If it's old enough, it may be in the public domain.
Firebee: Not to be overly contrary, but have you considered the case where one person writes the lyrics and another writes the music? According to your logic, the lyricist would have no rights to his words unless the musician was singing them. It doesn't work like that, I'm afraid.
Go to www.harryfox.com , the site that handles most all the song licensing issues in the USA. The International Lyrics Server that used to reside at www.lyrics.ch was shut down over copyright infringement.
It seems picky, unless you're a songwriter yourself, I suppose. (Not that I am!) Do you realize you can't even sing "Happy Birthday To You" in a public place without paying a royalty to the copyright holder? That's why all those restaurants sing some insipid "happy-happy Birthday" song instead of HBTY.
A line or two, perhaps a verse, or the chorus, that's reasonable "fair use" of lyrics. The whole thing isn't.
Honestly.
God bless!
Zix
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Dream a Little Dream of Me
Schwant, Andre, and Kahn
Stars shining bright above you
Night breezes seem to whisper "I love you"
Birds singin' in the sycamore trees
Dream a little dream of me
Say nighty-night and kiss me
Just hold me tight and tell me you'll miss me
While I'm alone and blue as can be
Dream a little dream of me
Stars fading but I linger on dear
Still craving your kiss
I'm longin' to linger till dawn dear
Just saying this
Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you
Sweet dreams that leave all worries behind you
But in your dreams whatever they be
Dream a little dream of me
(instrumental break)
Stars shining up above you
Night breezes seem to whisper "I love you"
Birds singin' in the sycamore trees
Dream a little dream of me
Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you
Sweet dreams that leave all worries behind you
But in your dreams whatever they be
Dream a little dream of me
Yes, dream a little dream of me
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Go to www.speedwagon.com click on Music Search, Songs A-Z, go to Time For Me TO Fly, and sure enough, the word really is "laugh".
Thank God I'm not hearing things after all,
Zix
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Time For Me To Fly by REO Speedwagon
written by: Kevin Cronin
time : 3:41
Album: You Can Tune a Piano, But You Can't Tuna Fish
Copyright: 1978 CBS Inc.
Chart Position: 56
I've been around for you
I've been up and down for you
But I just can't get any relief
I've swallowed my pride for you
I've lived and lied for you
But you still make me feel like a thief
You got me stealin' your love away
'Cause you never give it
Peeling the years away
And we can't relive it
I make you laugh
And you make me cry
I believe it's time for me to fly
You said we'd work it out
You said that you had no doubt
That deep down we were really in love
Oh, but I'm tired of holding on
To a feeling I know is gone
I do believe that I've had enough
I've had enough of the falseness
Of a worn out relation
Enough of the jealousy
And the intoleration
I make you laugh
And you make me cry
I believe it's time for me to fly
{Refrain} Time for me to fly
Oh, I've got to set myself free
Time for me to fly
And that's just how it's got to be
I know it hurts to say goodbye
But it's time for me to fly
Oh, don't you know it's...
{Refrain}
It's time for me to fly
{Repeat to end}
Words & Music Kevin Cronin
©1978 CBS Inc., all rights reserved
Zix, you were correct and I hereby beg your forgiveness and offer my humble apology
please take me back..........pleeease
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(sigh) Oh, if I must...
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CROSSFIRE
© T. Shannon, C. Layton, R. Wynans, B. Carter, R. Ellsworth
Day by day night after night....Blinded by the neon lights
Hurry here hustlin' there....No one's got the time to spare
Money's tight nothin' free....Won't somebody come and rescue me
I am stranded....Caught in the crossfire Stranded....Caught in the crossfire.
Tooth for tooth eye for an eye....Sell your soul just to buy buy buy
Beggin' a dollar stealin' a dime....Come on can't you see that I
I am stranded....Caught in the crossfire
I am stranded....Caught in the crossfire.
I need some kind of kindness....Some kind of sympathy oh no
We're stranded....Caught in the crossfire
Save the strong lose the weak....Never turning the other cheek
Trust nobody don't be no fool....Whatever happened to the golden rule
We got stranded....Caught in the crossfire
We got stranded....Caught in the crossfire
We got stranded....Caught in the crossfire
Stranded....Caught in the crossfire
Help me
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(I've Had) The Time of My Life
Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes
Now I've had the time of my life
No I never felt like this before
Yes I swear it's the truth
and I owe it all to you
'Cause I've had the time of my life
and I owe it all to you
I've been waiting for so long
Now I've finally found someone
To stand by me
We saw the writing on the wall
As we felt this magical
Fantasy
Now with passion in our eyes
There's no way we could disguise it
Secretly
So we take each other's hand
'Cause we seem to understand
The urgency just remember
You're the one thing
I can't get enough of
So I'll tell you something
This could be love because
CHORUS:
I've had the time of my life
No I never felt like this before
Yes I swear it's the truth
And I owe it all to you
With my body and soul
I want you more than you'll ever know
So we'll just let it go
Don't be afraid to lose control
Yes I know what's on your mind
When you say, "Stay with me tonight"
Just remember
You're the one thing
I can't get enough of
So I'll tell you something
This could be love because
CHORUS
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Artist Van Halen
Song Jump
I get up, and nothing gets me down.
You got it tough. I've seen the toughest around.
And I know, baby, just how you feel.
You've got to roll with the punches to get to what's real
Oh can't you see me standing here,
I've got my back against the record machine
I ain't the worst that you've seen.
Oh can't you see what I mean ?
Might as well jump. Jump !
Might as well jump.
Go ahead, jump. Jump !
Go ahead, jump.
Aaa-ohh Hey you ! Who said that ?
Baby how you been ?
You say you don't know, you won't know
until we begin.
Well can't you see me standing here,
I've got my back against the record machine
I ain't the worst that you've seen.
Oh can't you see what I mean ?
Might as well jump. Jump !
Go ahead, jump.
Might as well jump. Jump !
Go ahead, jump.
SOLO
Might as well jump. Jump !
Go ahead, jump.
Get it and jump. Jump !
Go ahead, jump.
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Heart of Gold
Neil Young
I want to live, I want to give
I've been a miner for a heart of gold
It's these expressions I never give
That keep me searching for a heart of gold
And I'm getting old
Keeps me searching for a heart of gold
And I'm getting old
I've been to Hollywood, I've been to Redwood
I crossed the ocean for a heart of gold
I've been in my mind, it's such a fine line
That keeps me searching for a heart of gold
And I'm getting old
Keeps me searching for a heart of gold
And I'm getting old
Keep me searching for a heart of gold
You keep me searching for a heart of gold
And I'm getting old
I've been a miner for a heart of gold
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Van Halen
"Why This Can't be Love"
Oh here it comes
That funny feelin again winding me up inside
Every time we touch
Hey I don't know
Just tell me where to begin cause I never ever
Felt so much
No I can't recall any love at all
Baby this blows 'em all away
It's got what it takes
So tell me why can't this be love
Straight from my heart oh tell me why
Can't this be love
I tell myself
Hey only fools rush in an only time will tell
If we stand the test of time
All I know
You've got to run to win an I'll be damned if
I'll get hung up on the line
No I can't recall any love at all
Baby this blows 'em all away
It's got what it takes
So tell me why can't this be love
Straight from my heart oh tell me why
Can't this be love
SOLO
It's got what it takes
So tell me why can't this be love
Straight from my heart oh tell me why
Can't this be love
Tell me why can't this be love
Baby why can't this be love
Got to know why can't this be love
I wanna know why can't this be love
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Record machine? I always thought that it was "wrecking machine"
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Red Hot Chili Peppers
Scar Tissue
Scar tissue the I wish you saw
Sarcastic Mister know it all
close your eyes and I'll kiss you cause'
With the bird I'll share
With the bird I'll share
This loney view
With the bird I'll share
this loney view
Push me up against the wall
Young kentucky girl in a push-up bra
Fallin' all over myself
To likc your heart and taste your health 'cause
With the bird I'll share
This loney view
Blood loss in a bathroom stall
Sounthern girl with a scarlet drawl
Wave goodbye to ma and pa 'cause
With the bird I'll share
With the bird I'll share
This loney view
With the bird I'll share
This loney view
Soft spoken with a broken jaw
Step outside but not to brawl
Autumn's sweet we call it fall
I'll make it to the moon if i have to crawl
With the bird I'll share
This loney view
Scar tissue the I wish you saw
Sarcastic Mister know it all
close your eyes and I'll kiss you cause'
With the bird I'll share
With the bird I'll share
This loney view
With the bird I'll share
This loney view
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Alanis Morissette
Dear Matthew,
I like you a lot
I realize you're in a relationship with someone right now
And I respect that
I would like you to know that if you're ever single in the future and you want to
Come visit me in california I would be
Open to spending time with you and finding out how old you were when you wrote your first song
Dear Jonathan,
I liked you too much
I used to be attracted to boys who would lie to me
And think solely about themselves and you were
Plenty self-destructive for my taste at the time
I used to say the more tragic the better
The truth is, whenever I think of the early 90's your face comes up with a vengeance like it was yesterday
Dear Terrance,
I love you muchly
You've been nothing but open hearted and emotionally available and supportive
And nurturing and consumately there for me I kept drawing you in
And pushing you away I remember how beautiful it was to
Fall asleep on your couch and cry in front of you for the first time you were the
Best platform from which to jump beyond myself What was wrong with me
Dear Marcus,
You rocked my world
You had a charismatic way about you with the women
And you got me seriously thinking about spirituality
And you wouldn't let me get away with kicking my own a$$
But I could never really feel relaxed and looked out for around you though
And that stopped us from going any further than we did
And it's kind of too bad 'cause we could've had much more fun
Dear Lou,
We learned so much
I realize we won't be able to talk for some time
And I understand that as I do you
The long distance thing was the hardest and we did as well as we could
We were together during a very tumultuous time in our lives
I will always have your back and be curious about you
about your career, your whereabouts
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