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  1. As a transplant to the South, I was so hurt by people's actions. I grew up in New England and if you want to insult someone you do it out in the open. Then I came down south and people would seem to be so nice, but they were just being polite and hiding behind that facade. I would think people were truly my friends, only to learn that they hated me and said so behind my back. Very hurtful things I would not say about my worst enemy. After years of being in the south, I picked up the game, made real friends, and learned that no one liked those people that I had originally been friends with, that they were not considered to be "ladies" and people put up with them because they were so polite. This was foreign to me cause the northerner inside me says, If I don't like you, I am not talking to you. Belle, what you said made me laugh...my friends and I had a saying. "When you leave the room you will be talked about, might me good, might be bad, but you will be talked about just the same." So I learned that when a southerner says...I was just talking about you...they mean it! :)-->
  2. Hey CW That is funny that you say that, when I first entered TWI, there were times I thought.."hey this is a pyramid scheme...I got recruited and then I recruit and the more I recruit the more "status" oops spiritual I get. The more the higher ups notice me and the faster I climb up that ladder. For what? Oh yeah a crown in the after life. :)--> I absolutely hated my family coordinator, she was a theif, a liar, and a cheat, but very much admired by TWI, maybe it was her big.....ya know
  3. and rude people ignorant people and dumb people Mo, I have heard your story before and am always deeply moved by what you and your children have gone through. Unlike the naive, I know that women back then did not have much of a voice, I am glad there are advocacy groups out there now to help women in these situations. I know that the police did not take women seriously, even in the 80's and some of the 90's. They just had no idea or interest to help battered women. There are very many corrupt social workers out there, there are many good ones. Sometimes its the luck of the draw. I know I have seen it myself in many cases, social workers have their own problems. Bottom line is that you do not have to justify yourself to anyone. You know what happened, your regrets, hind sight is 20/20. No one has walked in your shoes but you. No one can say well I would of...since they were not there and did not live the experience. Its so easy to sit on the sideline of someone's life, so much harder to step into their shoes. I think it is very brave of you to say what you went through. You can help others sort through their own personal pains that were related to TWI. There are many, for every "I had a great time in the way story" there are many more "the way hurt me and my family story" You post here and share your story with us, just think of those who have gone through the same thing, but feel ashamed and cannot post. Of course, it does not help that people want to bash others for their stories. But, you do not let it stop you and go as far as anwering those who want to blame the victim. I applaud you. I hope your children will some day soon get the help they need. I hope that they will rise above. You did, I know they have it in them.
  4. Funny Geo Hi Kathy! Hey Sudo good to hear from you. I hope all is well with you and yours. Thanks for inviting me to this thread. I will try to derail it, but after 66 pages it might be hard! I have been well. Trying to get adjusted to a new move to the midwest thanks to the Navy. My heart is in Virginia though and there it shall remain.
  5. Is this the same Jean that was or is (dunno) married to Will? If so, please send me a PT and I will give you my contact info so you may know who I am. Thanks
  6. no not amateur attorney, more like armchair lawyers. We are not the ones being sued, he is. If someone was suing me, I would NOT post it on the internet. I WOULD hire an attorney.
  7. Oh and I also forgot to mention that I broke the rules and worked 35 hours a week. That helped us not starve to death. And can you believe my family coordinator had the nerve to reprove me for it? I simply told her to get a job and I would stop working so many hours, and she did.
  8. CW, You crack me up! Everything you said make sense to me. wah ;)-->
  9. Well we did not go hungry. We lived in a beautiful condo in Tempe. But, I disliked my lazy family coordinator. My wow sister Marianne and I supported her because she was unable to find/keep a job. One day I came home early from work to find her sleeping in the middle of the day. She was suppose to be finding work. She also thought she was our boss and tried to tell us what to do all the time. She came to the dinner table wearing a bra and nothing else and was offended when asked to wear CLOTHES. We complained about her to no avail. We were told that God had wanted her to be our leader. Yeah yeah yeah. Geez
  10. Well they sound just like the church choir of this baptist church I went to once. Some people like that stuff, I don't. It puts me to sleep. Those outfits are something else. I have never seen anything that ugly. I feel sorry for all those who are made to wear them. Ladies just say no!
  11. Uncle Harry is that what you learned? You are right, what a waste of money!! To think some around these parts are always flexing their "I am/was Way Corps muscles" I thought ya all should have been some great scholars. I am not suprised to learn it was all a big scam. Thank you for being honest. oops typo
  12. Pat isn't the registered trademark of the way in the domain name? It took me five minutes to research this topic briefly and I will tell you this. It is common practice for the lawyers to send you a registered letter asking you to stop using and close down the domain name. If the person refuses (like you did) then a law suit is filed in federal court of the state the domain was purchased. It does not matter that they did not think to buy it at the time and that you did and you certainly cannot sell it to anyone else including TWI. Pat, I think they can really win this and the loss to you can be great. Please rethink this. I am not saying this to you out of any malice, but out of concern for you. Just give it to them.
  13. TITLE III--TRADEMARK CYBERPIRACY PREVENTION (also known as S. 1948) Enacted on November 29, 1999 SEC. 3001. SHORT TITLE; REFERENCES (a) SHORT TITLE- This title may be cited as the `Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act'. (b) REFERENCES TO THE TRADEMARK ACT OF 1946- Any reference in this title to the Trademark Act of 1946 shall be a reference to the Act entitled `An Act to provide for the registration and protection of trademarks used in commerce, to carry out the provisions of certain international conventions, and for other purposes', approved July 5, 1946 (15 U.S.C. 1051 et seq.). SEC. 3002. CYBERPIRACY PREVENTION. (a) IN GENERAL- Section 43 of the Trademark Act of 1946 (15 U.S.C. 1125) is amended by inserting at the end the following: (d) (1) (A) A person shall be liable in a civil action by the owner of a mark, including a personal name which is protected as a mark under this section, if, without regard to the goods or services of the parties, that person-- (i) has a bad faith intent to profit from that mark, including a personal name which is protected as a mark under this section; and (ii) registers, traffics in, or uses a domain name that-- (I) in the case of a mark that is distinctive at the time of registration of the domain name, is identical or confusingly similar to that mark; (II) in the case of a famous mark that is famous at the time of registration of the domain name, is identical or confusingly similar to or dilutive of that mark; or (III) is a trademark, word, or name protected by reason of section 706 of title 18, United States Code, or section 220506 of title 36, United States Code. (B) (i) In determining whether a person has a bad faith intent described under subparagraph (A), a court may consider factors such as, but not limited to-- (I) the trademark or other intellectual property rights of the person, if any, in the domain name; (II) the extent to which the domain name consists of the legal name of the person or a name that is otherwise commonly used to identify that person; (III) the person's prior use, if any, of the domain name in connection with the bona fide offering of any goods or services; (IV) the person's bona fide noncommercial or fair use of the mark in a site accessible under the domain name; (V) the person's intent to divert consumers from the mark owner's online location to a site accessible under the domain name that could harm the goodwill represented by the mark, either for commercial gain or with the intent to tarnish or disparage the mark, by creating a likelihood of confusion as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of the site; (VI) the person's offer to transfer, sell, or otherwise assign the domain name to the mark owner or any third party for financial gain without having used, or having an intent to use, the domain name in the bona fide offering of any goods or services, or the person's prior conduct indicating a pattern of such conduct; (VII) the person's provision of material and misleading false contact information when applying for the registration of the domain name, the person's intentional failure to maintain accurate contact information, or the person's prior conduct indicating a pattern of such conduct; (VIII) the person's registration or acquisition of multiple domain names which the person knows are identical or confusingly similar to marks of others that are distinctive at the time of registration of such domain names, or dilutive of famous marks of others that are famous at the time of registration of such domain names, without regard to the goods or services of the parties; and (IX) the extent to which the mark incorporated in the person's domain name registration is or is not distinctive and famous within the meaning of subsection ©(1) of section 43. (ii) Bad faith intent described under subparagraph (A) shall not be found in any case in which the court determines that the person believed and had reasonable grounds to believe that the use of the domain name was a fair use or otherwise lawful. ` © In any civil action involving the registration, trafficking, or use of a domain name under this paragraph, a court may order the forfeiture or cancellation of the domain name or the transfer of the domain name to the owner of the mark. (D) A person shall be liable for using a domain name under subparagraph (A) only if that person is the domain name registrant or that registrant's authorized licensee. (E) As used in this paragraph, the term `traffics in' refers to transactions that include, but are not limited to, sales, purchases, loans, pledges, licenses, exchanges of currency, and any other transfer for consideration or receipt in exchange for consideration. [(d)] (2) (A) The owner of a mark may file an in rem civil action against a domain name in the judicial district in which the domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name authority that registered or assigned the domain name is located if-- (i) the domain name violates any right of the owner of a mark registered in the Patent and Trademark Office, or protected under subsection (a) or ©; and (ii) the court finds that the owner-- (I) is not able to obtain in personam jurisdiction over a person who would have been a defendant in a civil action under paragraph (1); or (II) through due diligence was not able to find a person who would have been a defendant in a civil action under paragraph (1) by-- (aa) sending a notice of the alleged violation and intent to proceed under this paragraph to the registrant of the domain name at the postal and e-mail address provided by the registrant to the registrar; and (bb) publishing notice of the action as the court may direct promptly after filing the action. (B) The actions under subparagraph (A)(ii) shall constitute service of process. © In an in rem action under this paragraph, a domain name shall be deemed to have its situs in the judicial district in which-- (i) the domain name registrar, registry, or other domain name authority that registered or assigned the domain name is located; or (ii) documents sufficient to establish control and authority regarding the disposition of the registration and use of the domain name are deposited with the court. (D) (i) The remedies in an in rem action under this paragraph shall be limited to a court order for the forfeiture or cancellation of the domain name or the transfer of the domain name to the owner of the mark. Upon receipt of written notification of a filed, stamped copy of a complaint filed by the owner of a mark in a United States district court under this paragraph, the domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name authority shall-- (I) expeditiously deposit with the court documents sufficient to establish the court's control and authority regarding the disposition of the registration and use of the domain name to the court; and (II) not transfer, suspend, or otherwise modify the domain name during the pendency of the action, except upon order of the court. (ii) The domain name registrar or registry or other domain name authority shall not be liable for injunctive or monetary relief under this paragraph except in the case of bad faith or reckless disregard, which includes a willful failure to comply with any such court order. [(d)] (3) The civil action established under paragraph (1) and the in rem action established under paragraph (2), and any remedy available under either such action, shall be in addition to any other civil action or remedy otherwise applicable. [(d)] (4) The in rem jurisdiction established under paragraph (2) shall be in addition to any other jurisdiction that otherwise exists, whether in rem or in personam.'
  14. Pat, Are ya talking to me? I never called you stupid. Just trying to give my 2cents, after all you started this thread. I don't see to many lawyers telling their clients to post their strategy on the internet, barn, billboard, etc. I don't think its a good idea, but heck what do I know. keep right on keeping on, no skin off my nose. Only I would not like to see you lose. Losing is always a posibility, just ask Martha.
  15. BTW, that letter TWI's lawyers wrote made me laugh. I can't imagine what it must be like to have to write such things. I bet you TWI has to pay them a lot of money for such foolishness. Anywho, I forgot to wish you luck Pat and please consider getting a lawyer. You are just learning theory and practicing law is totally different.
  16. Hi ya Pat! I have to agree with most of Long Gone's post. I don't think you can ever predict what a jury will do. But, I do think that this matter should be easy to settle out of court. As a future lawyer, you should know that law suits that are based "on principal" are costly and do not really solve anything. I don't know if that is what you are doing, but it sure sounds like it. I think that you will be better of if you 1. stop posting information that TWI can read and use against you. 2. get a lawyer 3. settle this matter the courts are too busy and they will encourage you to settle out of court. Some Civil courts docket civil matters years in advance. This could take forever and what will you gain? I just don't think it is worth it IMO. Also, you stated that you sold it to your friend for $1, is that correct? Then you no longer own it, right? So why are you being sued shouldn't they go after the owner?
  17. Well, I wont post her name. I believe she was 17th Way Corps. He met her when he was a WOW in Worcester, Mass. If I remember correctly, The ministy did not want them to marry or date because she was black and Scott was destined for leadership. It was a pretty sad situation. He then went in residence and shortly thereafter married. This person that I am talking about was even invited to the wedding. Of course, she was devasted and did not go. I was the one that listened to her heartache. I don't blame her for being ga-ga over him He was a very nice man from what I remember. I only have good memories of him.
  18. Thanks MCcarroll. That is the last I heard about Scott too. I did not remember his wife's name. I was a friend of the person he was engaged to before the "ministry" and his brother told him he could not marry her. I always liked Scott. I still have a picture of him and his wow sisters and brothers in Colorado. At least I think it was Colorado. It was soo long ago.
  19. Labels can hurt. I know I was hurt when I first heard I was Possessed after I left TWI. It was the people that said it, people that I had considered my friends, that hurt and stung the most. Of course, I have never regretted leaving, I only regret my time "in" thank goodness it was short. Sidenote to: MJ, why did you say that to Ginger? Honestly, your logic, or lack thereof, never makes sense to me. All she said is that adults do not need parents. I have a great relationship with my parents, but I don't need to go to them to make decisions. I am an adult. Leave it to you to use a simple word against Ginger. I have seen you do it time and time again. She has never said she hated her parents or anyone else. Even if she did, why bring it up? What does it have to do with the topic? Let it go MJ, its getting old.
  20. Hello Trefor! I am one of those "off the word" people that think gays/lesbians should be allowed to marry and given the same rights that we are. After all, I have met plenty of heteros who should have NOT been allowed to marry and produce offspring. So what is the big deal? Just thought I would let you know that there are people who support your views. Have a great day Trefor! Proud to be from Mass.
  21. I am soooo glad I am not the only one. I rented the movie this weekend. I had heard such great things and I could not wait to see it. I kept watching hoping it would get better, it just had to.....it did not and at the end I yelled...this movie sucks.
  22. Ginger, I never make anything for christmas, it takes the fun off of shopping. But, I do like to make stuff for the other holidays. Though I must admit that I have made nothing in the last couple of years. Everything I made turned out so badly :(--> ........
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