Charlie Kirk and his journey home

[oldiesman]

The following information came to me in an email and thought some of us may want to think about and discuss it.     I can tell you from personal experience in TWI that I didn't think as highly of Mary the mother of Jesus as I should have.   Maybe you feel the same way I do, but now I regret that.    The links are not clickable here but let me know if you want me to post them.   Thank you.

 

Charlie Kirk and the Journey Home--Both Christine Niles of Stella Maris Media and Raymond Arroyo of Fox News (38:01) and EWTN are reporting that, in the last few months of his life, Charlie Kirk and his wife had been attending Mass at Saint Bernadette Parish in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Kirk, the Founder and CEO of Turning Point USA, was raised Presbyterian, and had long identified as an Evangelical.

In July, he surprised many of his followers when he said the solution to toxic feminism was the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Kirk said that "I think we as Protestants and Evangelicals under-venerate Mary. She was very important. She was a vessel for our Lord and Savior....We don't talk about Mary enough. We don't venerate her enough. Mary was clearly important to early Christians."

The cruel, savage and premeditated murder of Charlie Kirk may well have been demonic in origin. Let us hope and pray that Charlie Kirk attained the eternal destiny which he was seeking, and let us pray for his wife and children, who have suffered a grievous and inconsolable loss.
 

[oldiesman]

Oops I guess the links are working... 

[waysider]

[Human without the bean]

They are now.

[Raf]

Out of respect:

You posted this in atheism. You do NOT want to know what I think of Charlie Kirk.

So I will move it and I will ask that we refrain from referring to the killer's motive as "demonic," which (under the umbrella of the atheism forum) is a lazy scapegoating that robs a homicidal a-hole of responsibility for his despicable act.

And I will ask that we refrain from politics, which is impossible in a conversation about Charlie Kirk (which is why I feel compelled to change the name of the thread).

So henceforth, this thread is narrowed to the following:

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Kirk said that "I think we as Protestants and Evangelicals under-venerate Mary. She was very important. She was a vessel for our Lord and Savior....We don't talk about Mary enough. We don't venerate her enough. Mary was clearly important to early Christians."
 

Do we agree? [moving to doctrinal).

[waysider]

This seems rather disingenuous and hypocritical, coming from someone who was known to be an outspoken misogynist. One might even suspect he was pandering.

Is that too far off topic? Remove if necessary.

[oldiesman]

2 hours ago, Raf said:

Out of respect:

You posted this in atheism. You do NOT want to know what I think of Charlie Kirk.

So I will move it and I will ask that we refrain from referring to the killer's motive as "demonic," which (under the umbrella of the atheism forum) is a lazy scapegoating that robs a homicidal a-hole of responsibility for his despicable act.

And I will ask that we refrain from politics, which is impossible in a conversation about Charlie Kirk (which is why I feel compelled to change the name of the thread).

So henceforth, this thread is narrowed to the following:

Do we agree? [moving to doctrinal).

Raf please do what you feel is best.     My sole reason for this post was to discuss Mary the Mother of Jesus and what Kirk said about Christians not venerating her enough.   If he was right then we, whoever wants to, may do good to give it some appreciable thought...thx