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Thanks for the answer. I dont think being cut off is the same as losing eternal life, which is what im saying is encompassed within the umbrella of salvation. Israel cut themselves off from the new covenant by unbelief. They rejected the Messiah, Yeshua, and paved the way for God to turn to the gentiles, who Paul is clearly addressing in Romans 11. Once a person is born again they are no longer gentile or jew but a new creation and the Church of God. Yet, if anyone confesses Jesus is Lord and believes God raised him from the dead they are saved whether gentile or jew. If that salvation (eternal life) could be rejected once received via the new birth i think God woild have given a stern warning the way he did Adam with thou shalt surely die. There is no such warning for the Church of God. Yet the consequences of walking in the old man nature can be quite severe, including loss of reward, and penalty incurred, that is not the same as eternal death aka the second death of the judgements. Rejecting salvation for the born again would by default place one in the great white throne judgments in revelation, i guess....lol I could go on, but then would be even more into doctrinal than i am. Plus, im not trying to say you are wrong Taxidev. There is a lot i have to learn on the subject. I appreciate the summation, you saved my 114 pages of Gallagher rhetoric that i have no desire to sift through. Cheers!

Yes. He showed how to quote Psalms "The fool saith in his heart, 'There is no God' " to say it technically says "there is no God." He also used I Corinthians to tell Jim D that God Almighty was ok with orgies. His rationale: Where it says "It is good for a man not to touch a woman", it's acceptable because the verses says that's "good" but not required, and that it would say "BEST" if God had issues with that, therefore God Almighty was fine with orgies- according to vpw in private.