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To be clear, I was answering a question about what's accepted about the Bible on THIS THREAD. Not on GSC. There are other sections of GSC where the Bible is treated with less skepticism (because to treat it otherwise would derail the thread).

It was a pretty big hit. I can remember the chorus, but not the line you quoted. George

Replies to this post have been hidden for the time being and it is locked to future comments for now. They were coming in too rapid fire succession to handle any other way. i will review things this evening. I cannot right now because of, well… other things I need to do. - Modgellan In other words, everyone take a breather. Christians and non- christians are both still welcome at GSC. Gots ta go for now.

Augusta, ME? George

I imagine it's Brad Paisley's "I'm Gonna Miss Her," which I've heard a lot more than the Playboys' song. Ooh love to hold ya, ooh love to kiss ya Ooh love I love it so Ooh love you're sweeter, sweeter than sugar Ooh love, I won't let you go George

When you consider the irony in this, it's almost comical in a perversely twisted way. Want something from God? Follow a complicated formula. Make sure to cross every T and dot every I. Want something from Satan? No problem. Just think it. It's yours. You want to know what killed that little boy? He spun 'round and 'round trying to make sense of it all and fell over dead from dizziness.

Agreed.

All I have had a good time over close to 20 years posting on this site. I have worked through plenty of cult recovery. I have called out all of the areas in the BITE model where TWI enslaved people. It has now come to the point where I feel that a Christian viewpoint is no longer welcome on Greasespot Cafe. It is fine to me if people in working through the trauma of the cult operation leave Christianity. However it is not fine to them that I remain Christian. I cannot call out faulty logic without moderation and hypocrisy with leaving the posts attacking Christianity unaltered but removing the Christian perspective posts. So for that reason this will be my last post on this site. Those of you that have my email please reach out. Best wishes in your lives developing a post TWI healthy life logic and development.

This is as labyrinthine a rabbit hole as how El became Yahweh. There should be plenty of books, articles and videos on the subject. I suspect someone here has an answer, but I think you are on the right track. It seems to me, if I remember correctly, the contemporary Christian idea of Satan is an evolved amalgamation. The ha-satan of Job is not the god of this world Paul writes about, and different still from what people mean today when they say Satan. ———— I had never heard so much daily talk about the devil until I married into that Way family. The adversary received more credit than God - no joke, no hyperbole, no figger of speech. The power of God depended upon beleeef, but the power of the adversary depended on nothing and was an absolute factual certainty. According to them, the devil was everywhere, especially over your shoulder - Look out! God and Christ were absent in another realm. I had no idea how polytheistic Christianity was until I took “the class.”

I hope for her recovery.

Where did the idea of Satan come from in the bible? Apparently, there was no actual Satan in a human or earthly context nor in an otherworldly context in the OT until the 6th century BCE. When the Israelites were freed from Babylonian captivity by Cyrus in 539 BCE, the Judea people returned to Jerusalem and lived for the next 200 years as a Persian-client state. *Bill Zuersher argues that during this time, Judah was influenced by the Persian belief of Zoroastrianism. Under this belief, Ahura Mazda, the god of goodness and Ahriman, the god of evil, are in a struggle against each other. This played out as good vs evil in the lives of humans. It was taught that good will triumph soon and in the meantime, a lot of emphasis was placed on moral teachings. There is an afterlife and a supernatural opponent to the good god. The afterlife includes a resurrection and judgment followed by one going to either paradise or the pit. This mythology appears to show up in the NT where Satan appears as the god of this world (along with his devil spirits) and Jesus teaches in Matthew of "being in danger of hell fire" (chap 5) and being cast "into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth" (chap 13). Is this a mere coincidence? Is this doctrine necessary to explain the evil that is present in the world? *Video: Bill Zuersher - Seeing Through Christianity - A Critique of Beliefs and Evidence

Maybe you'll remember "Cecilia" from ~Simon & Garfunkel~ and they're album "Bridge Over Troubled Water". It did reach #1 on the top 100 for Cashbox in 1970. It did play on the radio. FREE POST

No. It's on the other side of the country.

Everyone give up? I'll just pick a more crossover song? Or give it to George, who got as close as he could while still having the wrong song

Definitely.

It really is cool

Right idea, wrong song. The titles are very close though. This one's a country song.

What a great video Rocky. It's funny and it's about atheism, the "miracle" of modern medicine and some good life lessons one of which is how donating blood saves lives. Were you interested in reading the book?

Carson City, NV? It's more or less a ghost town. George

Still not getting it. George

"Sure Gonna Miss Her" by Gary Lewis and the Playboys? George

Enough warnings had been given recently about how to respond to each others' posts. My reply simply overlooked the way he chose to address an issue he had with me so instead of dealing with it, I thanked him that his post helped me to remember to use "IMO I think"...instead of telling someone what they ought to do. And I meant it. He was upset that I didn't apologize and let me know this in such a way that required an apology from him. Thanks for the video - I'll watch it in the morning.

Well, it was a test. "How far will Abraham go? How deep is his commitment? I've got to find out. Hmmm... a test... a test... rock ridge... rock ridge..." "I've got it!! I'll tell him to make his precious Isaac a burnt offering to me. We don't want him to actually go through with it and slaughter the lad, we just need to see if he would. It's a test, remember? Tell you what, if it looks like he's going all the way, pop up at the last minute and stop him. I'll make sure an animal appears nearby, a goat or sheep or something. Keep your eyes peeled for movement in the thicket. Now, let's get to work..."

Thank you, and yes, she is.

I'm very sorry for the loss of your sister and brother. Is your other sister still battling cancer? I appreciate what you said about emotions Raf. But to make myself more clear, I let go of my belief in god that night because in my mind and heart he again proved to be untrustworthy. Like I said, later I did look at what the bible said about prayer to see what I was misunderstanding about it and from what I remember, answers to prayer came with conditions which I saw as convenient loopholes for a "promise" to become a "perhaps" or "maybe." There is no peace that passes understanding with BS like that.