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Hitchcock had nothing to do with the Elephant Man. The Producer's wife did. She's a costar. They said she did not need to audition. In fairness, she was already an Oscar winner. MUCH later, the Producer became an EGOT winner. There's a grammatical/syntax error I am making repeatedly that gives the answer away.

Alfred Hitchcock? Could be thought of (because of his girth) an "elephant" man. Looks like Donald Pleasence. Not hard to believe his being pompous enough to insult studio execs. Only major problem is that he died in 1980. George

The Producer was actually considered for the role of Sam Loomis in Halloween, which no doubt would have created even further confusion. Sam Loomis was played by Donald Pleasence, perhaps better known [but not to me] as Blofeld in You Only Live Twice. Coincidentally, he also played Victor Frankenstein and Baron Frankenstein in a comedy called "Frankenstein's Great Aunt Tilly." Incidentally, not all syntax errors are syntax errors. Some are huge hints.

Those guesses are hilarious. No, it was not John Merrick or John Landis. Yes, that was a hint.

Honestly don't know... but I believe faith is still a requirement to accept it as an actual miracle. Similar is the story of Bernadette Soubirous. I believe the hell she went through trying to prove to everyone what she saw, was eventually confirmed by the spring, the healings that occurred, and later her incorruptible physical body. Even with all that, faith still is a requirement. Bernadette Soubirous - Wikipedia

I know of 2 versions of a film on that story in my lifetime. I saw the other one, where it was a film of a stage production, where the actor playing John Merrick wore no makeup. As a kid, I disliked that but watched the film. As I got older, I came to agree with what must have been the reason to use no makeup- that is, the play was focusing on his humanity and how he really wasn't that different. I know there was at least one other version, but I don't really know anything about it except they DID use the makeup. Confuse the audience....makeup.... was it JOHN LANDIS?

So, in twi, they're using plagiarized materials, and charging large sums for classes that have a negligible expense for them. The books are published in-house on the cheap, and marked up for retail prices. None of the content has been improved, and it's just got a new paint job. Not stated, but obvious with twi, was that- once again- everyone's now required to take the new classes all over again, and not considered grads of the new stuff just because they sat through 100% of the same material previously. Personally, I think the increased price per student is meant to offset the decreased numbers. Where they used to have 7-14 new students and a $40 class, they now have 3 new students (or rooms of grads retaking the new thing again "for the first time" and charge so much more to squeeze more money out of those leaned on to take the "new" class. As if it was costing twi much to run the thing- almost all expenses are borne by locals out-of-pocket, and the printing costs are covered several times over in the retail prices of the books. So, really, twi is re-treading what's already been re-treaded.

It is. George

This for those walking Oscar thesaurus types, which actor won the inaugural Best Supporting Actor award in 1936 and has won it three times?

Someone who had the same name as John Merrick?

Someone on Reddit told me the class is 18 hours, registration is $100, includes syllabus and books. He didn't say which books, only that they are revisions of old books, as the class is a revision of the original, errors and all. (He didn't know what I was talking about when I asked about error corrections.) He said they were holding classes "all over" and would try to connect me with one in my area, if I were interested. I asked if "the class" was available for purchase on Blue-ray or DVD. He said, "It's a class you can take, not something available for sale. Registration is $100..." An answer like that should tell you all you need to know about how old the new one really is.

As of this date: Board of Directors Rev. Vern Edwards [President] Rev. Steve Crommett Rev. Bill Greene Dr. Angela Priester Rev. John Rupp I know John Rupp, barely, from his time in the Bronx. I mean barely. WordWolf might have more memories than I. This website and its predecessor have done so much to expose the legacy leadership of The Way International. But I am not aware of any allegations of personal wrongdoing by any of the current board. Anyone have testimonial about their character? Not rumors. Not slander. Not even necessarily anything negative. What do we actually know about these people? Anything?

So... have we heard from anyone who has taken this class? Or the intermediate? Speculation aside?

Well... proverbs was written by a specific person or people to specific persons or people. That doesn't mean any OTHER people would be unable to cultivate long term curiosity. I get it. it took me years to get beyond the chains Wierwille installed in my brain. Think about what scientists, mathematicians, or philosophers having curiosity to figure out things they are interested in. Wierwille and Martindale were adamant that any new insight about ANYTHING was ONLY revelation from God. I (NOW) say that's malarkey.

I like the video - I keep saying I want to begin doing laps again and the video is a good incentive. I can understand someone communing with God while being in the woods. I used to do that myself. When it comes to Prov 2:1-5 though, I don't see world wisdom here. 1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

Here's another thing that we, in TWI, thought was US as individuals tapping into the power of a specific God. Meditation alone in nature. 42 or 43 years ago, I spent a year as a Wow in Fremont, Ohio. In the Spring of 1982, I started spending some time in a small woods environment along Muskellunge Creek Road, immediately south of State Street. It was my happy place. I felt like I was communing with God. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fremont+ohio+map&atb=v353-1&t=chromentp&iaxm=maps&source=maps What was really happening is better described as achieving a FLOW state. The irony, looking back on it, is in that it was and is something that is not at all unique to TWI or any other flavor or sect of Christianity. It took me a VERY LONNNNNGGG time to recognize and realize this aspect of FLOW. When I did, it was freeing in a very real way. I could accomplish things without reference to anything Wierwille. As far as a biblical key, I found it in Proverbs 2: 1-5. It took many long hours (over the course of years) it took me to overcome the chains Victor Wierwille planted in my brain in his PFLAP classes (read ONLY this and not that), Why? Could it have been because I had been indoctrinated ("trained") to be afraid of world wisdom?

Dang it . Oh, I got it. Glen Campbell and Neil Diamond went through my head but that's wrong. It's "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head".

These abrasive posters... are they the ones who accuse those who disagree with them of having massive egos, seeing the word through sh!t-colored glasses, or being responsible for Satan's takeover of America because they don't support your favorite political party or candidate? Or is your disdain for the guy who says "knock that off, GSC has rules and you're violating them"? Just checking.

Neither I nor others have mentioned anything about threats real or implied of being 'booted off' GSC...and tbh it would hardly be a 'life changing' or devastating occurrence would it now :)....it was merely mentioned that there are posters on here who are very skewed and abrasive and insulting to others who post with a differn't view point to theirs...be honest now...GSC aint no 'all embracing' 'bipartisan' fest of forgiving disillusioned former cultists lol...and really, those particular posters should know better having lived through the abuse of twi.

I'm sure that made him feel much better. George

Please save criticism of Mike's positions for another thread. It's off topic here.

Many people say... IMO, it's absurd to frame people coming to GSC and then no longer needing it in TWI terms.

Someone said “GSC grads.” A gloveless concept. Reminds me of that charlatan.

I checked it out, you're right, Roddy McDowall wasn't nominated in the category of Best Supporting Actor because Twentieth Century Fox mistakenly nominated him for Best Actor instead. I'm guessing then, that the Academy removed his official nomination because of the error. He was nominated for a Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actor, but didn't win. I was right Roddy McDowall didn't win an Oscar. In fact, he was never nominated (except through the clerical error that probably cost him the Oscar). Here's Twentieth C. statement released to the trade papers at the time and an apology to Roddy McDowall. "We feel that it is important that the industry realize that your electric performance as Octavian in 'Cleopatra,' which was unanimously singled out by the critics as one of the best supporting performances by an actor this year, is not eligible for an Academy Award nomination in that category . . . due to a regrettable error on the part of Twentieth Century Fox."