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Gerard Butler

the terms of naturalist and naturism has its beginnings in art and paintings of nature of course, today the terms have been perverted

WordWolf knows the answer but has chosen not to give it. It is not Bob Dylan or To Make You Feel My Love.

One person in this conversation is actually a naturalist by definition. The one bloviating about what naturalists would know, while saying something no naturalist would say, is not that person.

That's "Faith Healing," by Thomson and Thompson. Something like that.

or a clear definition of what it is to die? not meaningless at all, but it is the subject....or object

Is it To Make You Feel My Love by Bob Dylan?

Um. No. Not without a clear definition of what you mean by born again. No naturalist would say this meaningless drivel

It was mishearing the lyrics. Next song: When it almost seems too much I see your face and sense the grace And feel the magic in your touch

Says who? Pleasing unto which lord? Plus, to/for. ThIs was written TO the angel of the ekklesia in Laodicea. It was not written TO you.

a naturalist would know that which dies will be born again does the humanist see the same? doubt it

I just finished quickly reading through a prophecy given by an old poster on this forum. I am sharing his website if anyone is interested in reading it. On it, there is also a link for his YouTube channel where he reads the prophecy. https://www.eyesupandopen.org/index.php/prophecies-from-jesus-christ/sinners-come-to-me-in-this-last-time Why am I sharing it? Because it shows how two Christians, who became close online friends over the past year and a half ago, went in two extreme opposite directions within the past two months - me deciding to walk away from Christianity and him starting to share his fundamentalist prophecies online. I'm pretty sure most on this thread will reject this all-or-nothing way of thinking. So what is left? How does one decide for themselves which parts are allegories, fiction, myths, hyperboles, etc. and still believe the Bible is God's word? As it was pointed out to me in Revelation 3:15-22, being lukewarm is not pleasing unto the Lord.

Was that intentional, or did you just not understand the lyrics? Sometimes we hear very weird things. George

I used to call this song "Aunt Bunny Love." As opposed to "Can't Buy Me Love" by The Beatles.

Naturalism is a motive for humanism. You can be a naturalist and a nihilist, but I can't imagine any humanist would put up much of a fight if you equated humanism with naturalism.

Yes he's funny and very bold. Obviously he threw away the idea a long time ago that he will be meeting the lord when he dies, LOL. BTW Raf, wanted to ask you: is "humanism" the same as "naturalism". Please advise, thx.

Say you don't need no diamond rings And I'll be satisfied Tell me that you want the kind of things That money just can't buy George

Nope. But you'll probably get it now: Tomorrow Never Dies Tale of the Mummy Fast Food The Cherry Orchard Dracula 2000 Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life The Phantom of the Opera Beowulf & Grendel The Ugly Truth Hunter Killer 300 London Has Fallen George

Less polite than Sweeney but still entertaining. I actually laughed at this BEFORE my deconversion, but it resonates more now.

It was too late. She already got a free shot.

"The Streak" by Ray Stevens. George

Same goes for a being "outside of time, space and matter."

Thx Raf. I got to the below comment and it made me smile. Gotta get to work now though! I will read the rest later or tomorrow. "The invisible and the non-existent often look very much alike."

I think the best I can do is point you to reviews that capture how this made other people feel. https://www.amazon.com/Letting-Go-God-Julia-Sweeney/product-reviews/B001J21JRQ

Raf it's two hours long and judging from the first 7 minutes, really can't take her comic act. Can you summarize the most important and impressive points from your point of view?